Anyone ever heard of AutoMania of Fort Lauderdale?

Just wondering if anyone's ever heard of this dealership??? Any comments, past experience? I've been speaking with the manager there (Phillipe) who has a car that came in off of a lease from Porsche Financial. 02' 996 TARGA silver/black full leather PSM comfort pkg. Bose 59K 60K service completed One owner What do you think a fair price would be? I'm thinking around $41,500.00 with a clean PPI. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bob

41.5? Seriously? Are you looking to pay trade-in value? There is no way you can get that car for $41.5K. Maybe high 40's to low 50's.

Dell, the mileage is fairly high though....

For whatever it's worth, Edmund's lists it as $48,877 dealer retail, with that mileage.

And KBB lists it in the low $50's range for that mileage and good to excellent cond. Point is that 41.5K is probably unrealistic.

Jon...how do figure that mileage is high? 12K a year for 5 years is 60K and the car has 59K. Sounds about right. Some will argue that a P-Car should have less miles per year than the avg car. I disagree if the car is a DD.

Agreed with what you are saying. 12k sounds about right for a DD, but the p-car market is flooded with fairly low mileage cars. On a 3-series, I wouldn't think twice about 60k being high, but on a 02 996, it is somewhat on the high side IMO. Hell, my 00 came with 7k miles and I bought it in 04. It's actually pretty sad how bad some p-cars are garage queens... whats the point in buying them? But makes it a great buy for the next person 41.5 does seem low and especially after seeing those Edmund and KBB numbers, zman and Dell are right on the money.... rt69, I'd definitely check-in to see if everything is legit (PPI-wise) before purchasing. good luck

Bob, My office is in downtown Fort Lauderdale. Give me more info (Address, phone #) and I'll check them out for you.

I sent you a PM.

i just sold my 03 coupe with 24k for $48500.00...... the market is soft boys. check all the values you want and listings at cars.com/atrader etc. and it should be in the mid 50's but not in the real world. the car was very very clean with no issues and a warranty....go figure....

I'm also seriously looking at an 01 coupe he is selling. I went and drove it last week. about the dealer itself: It's a very small operation a small garage with 4 Porsches inside (and a jack?). Not open to the public (buy appointment only). In talking with Phillipee, I felt as if he was hiding something. I noticed some paint bubbles along the rear 1/4 panel (by the side rocker). He claims the rocker was painted after it was installed. But then he said the rockers were factory installed.???? Very confusing. He also installed an aftermarket sound system even though it came with the upgraded radio and changer. But the price seems right ($36,900 w/51K miles) and it's very clean. Still considering it (if I get the truth out of him). The carfax shows nothing wrong (for whatever that's worth).

Spikes, glad to hear you sold it. I called you a couple of times but I could not sell my M Roadster to buy yours, therefore I never made it out to see it. I ended up trading my M for an 04 with 36k miles and I got it for $54,250. Yes, the market is soft.

Very shady dealership. Very shady city. 996's are a dime a dozen down here in S. FL., but most have been ragged to the bone by the 15-yr. old Too Fast - Too Furious crowd. The carpet will be hiding a thousand ancient vomit stains (as well as other body fluids), the leather will have endured ten thousand hours of S. FL. direct sunlight, and the motor will have been overrevved beyond the CPU's ability to keep count. But the bones of a 996 are always good. If the price is right you can't go wrong. Do expect they will be making up for that short sell on the back end with financing for sure; so bring cash or arrange financing beforehand. Otherwise they'll have you signing for a $70K '02 before you know what hit you. They are very good. I looked in S. FL. for quite some time before I finally gave up and flew to Chicago. Glad I did.

Sometimes we need all the shade we can get in the sunny South Florida. I didn't have to go so far.... I purchased mine in Tampa.

rt, I hate to admit this, but I have no clue as to how to access a PM. Lemme know the address of this place and I'll drive by there today. FWIW, there are quite a few "resellers" here in S. Florida with what look like great P-cars, but on closer inspection, all too many have a bazillion miles on the clock. Any firm that offers to lease a pre-owned P-car tends to be a bit suspect (at least in this neighborhood). Don't worry - I SWEAR I won't buy it out from under you, I am still building my P-Car fund adn I am - at last count, at 34.457% of what I need to get on the road.

He doesn't even have the car in his possession (yet, supposedly it's coming from Porsche Financial) AND he wanted $5000.00 USD as a deposit WIRED to his account before I could do the PPI. Does this seem a bit exorbitant for a deposit? I think so, but FYI the address is 14 NE 9th Street, Ft. Lauderdale. The search continues...

Move on. Getting that large a deposit for a car he doesn't posess to get a PPI? That's insane! You should never have to give a deposit before a PPI anyway.

$5K just to do a PPI??? That's nuts! I knew we had crooks down here, but this kind of behaviour would embarass most of them. Good luck and hang in there.

Sounds to me like if he gets a buyer, he'll THEN purchase the car and sell it for a profit. My guess is this car is currently available somewhere else, being sold by someone else. I don't suppose he'll give you the VIN number?