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A speeding Porsche crashed into the second story of a building, killing two people

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However, there are those (both young and old), who all too often fail to use common sense when riding/driving extremely fast motorcycles/cars.

A speeding Porsche crashed into the second story of a building, killing two people

Use good judgment

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When I was that age I was driving a 1967 Datsun Roadster 1600 - cool car but luckily for me it was not fast at all because I did not always use good judgment

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When I was that age I was driving a 1967 Datsun Roadster 1600 - cool car but luckily for me it was not fast at all because I did not always use good judgment

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

A speeding Porsche crashed into the second story of a building, killing two people https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/10/us/po...rnd/index.html

POST 2Original post

Ouch! Sad story Just conjecture, but the car most likely wasn't his (more likely Mom's or Dad's) and he was just "seeing what it could do"... Even sadder if his parents gifted it to him...

POST 3Original post

Truly a heart breaking story. Two close friends, recent graduates with a bright future, but now gone. Lots of these kids think they're immortal when they get behind the wheel of a powerful sports car. The reality shouldn't be any different than the video games or the action movies they grew up watching where the good guys always get up and walk away, right? Wrong! So sad. I can't help but think of the Paul Walker crash when I read about something like this. I've had quite of few friends to lose their lives doing stupid stuff.

POST 4Original post

Yeah, they were young, they named their names on Fox news this morning. 22 and 23 years old!

POST 5Original post

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Speed kills...especially in the hands of those who do not know how to handle it. Fast cars are not video games nor part of a Hollywood movie. Wonder if the families will sue Porsche for building an unsafe vehicle like the Paul Walker incident.

POST 6Original post

Sad story .... Young people should be given a lecture and perhaps a lesson on high performance cars and bikes before driving / riding them .... Precise interments in the hands of inexperienced users is a recipe for disaster. I see it everyday here in the city we get 1 or two a month here where young adults are killed due to speed and stupidity at least they only killed themselves this time.

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Sad story indeed. Self control comes from respect. Young people can have a sense of immortality and fast cars/bikes are very intoxicating to some. Even with an introduction/cautioning young people(and even some of us more mature folks) can fall into the trap of a question like "Just how fast is this thing?" Having raced a few things on dirt(bikes and cars) I have come to have a healthy respect for speed and the consequences of using it inappropriately, but it took me 40 years to get there. Just last night I had the 40 something yo kid and two GC's in the Type R and had to keep my foot out of the loud pedal. After the GC's got out the kid said "We can go for a ride when the kids aren't here so they don't get the idea of hey this is fun." Smart kid!

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Like when I was 18 and wanted to see how high I could launch me and my dirt bike off a jump! Looped it and landed on my tailbone, breaking it and compressing my spine...Been 40 years of pain and failed surgeries!

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You are fortunate that you didn't end up in a chair the rest of your life, but that is exactly what I was taking about. We all make poor choices in our lives. Sometimes we are lucky. Sometimes we are not.

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It looks like it was a gift from his father. This is not far from me and only a half mile from my bosses house. Very sad! https://www.nj.com/ocean/2019/11/por...iend-says.html

POST 11Original post

Thankfully no one was hurt outside of the occupants. It's sad, people make mistakes and like someone else mentioned when you are that young you think you are invincible, you know everything. What model Porsche was it?

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2010 Base Boxster. Should be the 2.9L.

POST 13Original post

This shot shows their route to the 2nd story a little better. Holy hell...

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Details https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/new...ml#more-220410

POST 15Original post

I'd be interested to see the investigating officer's incident report including speed, direction and launch angles to be able to achieve that. I think it would have taken a lot of work to have "planned" it and to do it by "accident" must have been been extraordinarily "unlucky." As for being young and stupid, we've all been there, done that. Fortunately, all of us here have survived those incidents, most likely by just dumb luck. However, there are those (both young and old), who all too often fail to use common sense when riding/driving extremely fast motorcycles/cars. I know that I have but I always had a "brake" in my brain that kept me from pushing the limits beyond the point that I felt was unsafe (which made/makes me a relatively "slow" rider/driver in terms of track times but not in terms of the "fun factor") and fortunately never made a fatal mistake in the process. Others who have failed to survive don't have such a "brake" in their brain or are just unlucky enough to die even if they did. RIP.

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I am guessing its just dumb luck. There are crazy videos out there of all sorts of stuff and it makes you go "how the hell did that happen" but it did. Sometimes its just a string of poor decisions combined with the stars aligning and you end up with some crazy result.

POST 17Original post

BAC was probably way too high. Such a sad incident, too young to know they weren't immortal... Hope it wasn't a graduation gift from the family, that would be so hard to live with.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

When I was that age I was driving a 1967 Datsun Roadster 1600 - cool car but luckily for me it was not fast at all because I did not always use good judgment I don't drive very fast in my 2000 996 but I really enjoy it

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Seems like it was a gift from his dad/parents.😰 That�s going to be difficult to live with...

POST 20Original post

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You could get in trouble with a lot of cars though. Unfortunately young adults, especially men do really stupid stuff in cars. I remember doing stupid stuff in my friends beat up pick ups and my dad's volvo when I was a teen. Luckily I grew out of it really quickly.

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The point is that he was given a sports car that�s made to go fast. The kid went faster than he could handle and paid with his (and his friends) life. I think the guilt connection is pretty obvious, and will probably be devastating to the parents/familys...

POST 22Original post

This is one of the reasons I prefer coupes and not cabs; better protection if something goes wrong. Not sure how different the damage to a coupe would have been in this case, but those pop-up mini roll bars won't help in an accident like this.

POST 23Original post

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I'm pretty sure that these boys would have died in a coupe, as well. I feel bad for the family and the other kid - but poor judgement by the driver sealed the deal.

POST 24Original post

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Must have lifted, over corrected and launched. The silence they heard before impact hopefully was calming. RIP.

POST 25Original post

Horrible. Straight up physics should be able to evaluate how fast given the trajectory, distance, and elevation. How far were they air born?

POST 27Original post

the assumptions in this thread are just unnecessary. the car being "gifted" (no mention of that), the BAC being high (no mention of that either), and the blanket statements about young people being inexperienced and needing "a lesson." this accident wouldn't even be rennlist news if it wasn't a Porsche

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This is the source of the gift claim. His girlfriend is quoted in this article Sobriquet posted. Not sure where the BAC info comes from.

POST 29Original post

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Sad! I lost a couple of good friends in my teens do to speed and alcohol. I too put my 65 bug (full of drunk friends) up on two wheels one night for what seemed like an eternity. Luckily I was able to put it back down before the telephone pole we where heading for. The face print left on my rear quarter window was never washed as a reminder.

POST 30Original post

Sad, but yet another reason why I don't let my teenager drive my old 99 C2. By today's standards it's not all that fast, but in the hands of a young inexperienced driver, it's a risk I don't feel like taking.

POST 31Original post

Whoops....brake failure? Get outta town https://www.thedrive.com/news/30983/...-on-test-drive

POST 32Original post

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I'd believe brain failure more likely.

POST 34Original post

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POST 36Original post

Overwhelming student debt, future catastrophic climate change, new strain of HIV discovered, USA becoming dictatorship, etc. They planned their suicides for reasons such as these, after they contemplated their "dumpster fire" like futures. Die driving a Porsche, hmmmm, there are worse ways to go. Nicely done.

POST 37Original post

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That's a pretty cynical post... The moderator should lock this thread before it turns into a **** show...

POST 38Original post

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