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YOUR RESEARCHPrice check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
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Replace water pump and belt
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I just replaced my water pump and belt for $785.01.
Price check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
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Just to follow up, I asked if they could adjust the maintenance hours a little bit, i.e.
Price check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
Replace air oil separator
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- If you replace the AOS when the transmission is out, it's a thirty minute job, not 4.7.
Price check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
Replace easily without removing the engine or tranny
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The water pump/thermostat can be changed easily without removing the engine or tranny, so if you want to just get that done so you're back on the road you won't be saving money doing everything at once.
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Replace filter, coolant, etc
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Price check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
Replace easily without removing the engine or tranny
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The water pump/thermostat can be changed easily without removing the engine or tranny, so if you want to just get that done so you're back on the road you won't be saving money doing everything at once.
Price check: IMS, RMS, AOS, water pump replacement - $4,100
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Unfortunately, right now my time is more valuable than my money so I'm forced to pay someone else to do my service. I've asked a local shop to replace my leaking water pump, and to do the AOS, IMS, and IMS at the same time. It'd be the IMS solution from LN engineering. They want $4,100 all told, and tell me that based on feel I may be in the market for a new clutch as well, which would be an additional $600. I'd planned to put $2,000 or so into preventative maintenance for this car, but this is a good bit more than that obviously. Are these prices reasonable?
Those prices look about in-line with what I'd expect a shop to charge. The water pump/thermostat can be changed easily without removing the engine or tranny, so if you want to just get that done so you're back on the road you won't be saving money doing everything at once.
If you are removing the transmission to do the RMS and IMS, you might as well do a clutch while you're in there unless the car has really low mileage.
The only issues I see on that are the following:
- A thermostat replacement takes about 20 minutes if the water pump is already out, not 1.3.
- If you replace the AOS when the transmission is out, it's a thirty minute job, not 4.7.
Why are they billing 3.5 hours for the water pump if the engine is coming out? Price seems decent when I had similar work done they just billed me for parts for the AOS, clutch/flywheel and it was around $4200.
Crazy cheap. This is an engine out, split case repair. How does $4k even cover the labor?
EDIT: Just looked at the parts list and saw this is IMSB only, not IMS. I still think the number is a bit high but reasonable.
That was the first thing that came to mind. If you can get all of that work done AND it's the
Solution
, you might want to get over there real soon and have it done. Your quote is not for the
Solution
.
I also agree with my brother, Capt. Obvious - there's a little padding in that labor.
Still not a bad deal,
if the work is good
. Maybe you can let them know about the "while you're already in there" factor when it comes to labor fees. Maybe they'll take a little of the fat out. Then again, they may spit in the IMSB after installing it...
That price is NOT for the IMS Solution, too low.....it would only be for the IMS Retrofit bearing (this bearing also has a limited lifetime service interval). If you want the IMS Solution, you aren't getting it in this quote.
When I bought my car the shop that did the ims had on the invoice "IMS solution" Once i got back I figured out they just listed it wrong. That's a huge difference in money and confidence, especially with pre-qualification. Real bummer.
You will have an additional list of costs added to this estimate IMO. Oil change, filter, coolant, etc. Sure makes me appreciate that I can do most of my own work!
Got to love the Shop Supplies charge. Just a little more squeeze to the waled to make sure there is nothing left in it.
And then the 10% discount to make you think you are getting a deal. Slimy business practice. I guarantee you this will cost significantly more at the end.
Even with just basic mechanical skills you can do the waterpump and t stat yourself and save a ton! That is not the IMS solution!! I advise getting a certified IMS shop to do the work Read up here there is also a list of certified shops on this site
http://theimssolution.com/
What makes you think that this is not the IMS solution? Their desc is funky but the part number maps to the correct part and I discussed it with them on the phone and felt they were describing the real deal.
So you have confirmed that the spin-on filter housing and oil feed line are part of this installation? The part price is close to the typical price for the solution, but the labor may be a little light. The engine needs to be modified to provide clearance for the oil feed line. Have you confirmed this is in the labor?
The part number listed in the quote more closely matches this:
http://www.autoatlanta.com/results.p...=911%201998-05
The Solution has a different suffix and would likely be described as the "solution" in the quote:
https://www.carid.com/ln-engineering...CABEgLJMPD_BwE
Oooops - that's the dual row solution. ^
Finally, is the shop planning to go through the pre-qualification procedure that LN recommends? It would be a good idea to check. We hope for your sake this is the Solution, but most of us are skeptical. And if it is, the price is good.
The question was directed at Jim - as he indicated he was quoted 5500 Loonies. Wanted to see if he was also getting the same parts replaced as the OP. And I have to admit, I don't recall what he stated in his thread on a similar subject...
That would be a good thing, if true. And searching on that number does bring up the Solution. The Auto Atlanta link that I posted, could be interpreted as a suffix of .2 (not .20).
It would still be good for us armchair mechanics to hear from the OP, beyond doubt, that this is indeed the Solution. He seems to give that impression - but we, the ever skeptical, like proof.
Just to follow up, I asked if they could adjust the maintenance hours a little bit, i.e. if AOS or pump was easier once transmission was out. Final cost came to $3,600, which I am pretty pleased with. They even put the car on a lift for me when I came to pick it up - it is definitely the LN engineering IMS solution. I'm very pleased with the work so far. At some point I'll need brakes and eventually plugs and coils, but I'm hoping to tackle at least some of that on my own.
