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(According to my wife it was due to two transformers blowing)
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The Hands on Class has struggled to be filled the last 3 classes we�ve had.
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The class ran an extra hour due in part to all the questions being asked by participants.
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We�ve always seemed to fill the class to capacity, but it just takes more effort now.
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The service that we use for the 101 online classes allows us to record a video of the class.
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We actually don’t use the Faultless Tools in the class- we can’t afford people bitching that the class is an infomercial for the tools, so we teach you how to use the factory tools, then you can easily do the job withb the Faultless tools at home.
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The next Knowledge Gruppe Engine Rebuild online class (101) is just over 1 week away.
http://www.theknowledgegruppe.com/in...1-online-copy/
If you are thinking about someday rebuilding your M96, and want to make sure you do it correctly, you will want to take the Knowledge Gruppe Hands-on class(102) in late February.
The online class (January 10th) is a prerequisite.
If you miss these classes you might have to wait a full year before having another chance.
They don't offer classes very often, and now with all the extra classes(air-cooled, M96 Turbo, 9A1, Cayenne, Diagnostics) they've added, the M96 rebuild courses might not happen very often.
I'm signed up for the online class, but I'm doubtful that I'll be able to scrounge up enough cash to take the hands-on class.
I had hoped the hands-on class would happen later in 2019.
I'm still trying to find a way to afford it.
"See" y'all in class!
Good luck. Hope it works out. I signed up for the hands on M96 performance class and the online prereq last year but they cancelled due to low enrollment. Such a bummer. Luckily I was able to get my airfare refunded. Unfortunately, I don't have the cash to do it now as it has since gone to other things.
I had hoped to take the online class this year but an unexpected move last month has tapped me financially too. Hopefully there'll be another later in the year?
The Hands on Class has struggled to be filled the last 3 classes we�ve had. Its the oldest class that we have, and has been around for 11 years now.. We�ve always seemed to fill the class to capacity, but it just takes more effort now.
The newer classes for 9a1 and even the aircooled engines continue to grow.
I do not see a hands on class being held in 2020, and we are even warning attendees of the 2019 class not to buy airfare until Feb 1, as we may not be able to get the minimum for this class
Maybe, but nothing is the same as doing the work with Tony and l putting your hands on the tools.
l have decided to publish my M96 assembly book. 7 years after l started it.
That’s what I was looking forward to.
Learning the tricks to the tools I own, and seeing first hand the Faultless tools.
I was going to ask if I could bring my own tools to use so I’d know how they work best.
Although Im sure that using both would convince me to buy the Faultless ones.
Looking forward to the assembly book!
Nope, just bring you, and some old clothes. We provide the rest.
We actually don’t use the Faultless Tools in the class- we can’t afford people bitching that the class is an infomercial for the tools, so we teach you how to use the factory tools, then you can easily do the job withb the Faultless tools at home.
ok, my tools are similar to the factory tools.
I was hoping to find a Boxster engine to get some practice in before attending the hands on class.
Now I�m just hoping to come up with tuition.
Looking forward to the online class!
Ok, now that I know this
may
be the last - I will commit and take the 101 next week so to qualify for 102. I've cleared with the family, so no travel hold ups and I'll wait to hear on Feb 1st to book the flight. Happy to share a rental from Hartsfield and a room close by for anyone else willing to share some costs.
If too many people wait, then the class won�t be held. TKG requires orders before we can place people in a class.
The minimum for a hands on class is 10, we are at 5 now. If we ever have to cancel a class due to low attendance, TKG refunds 100% of the class purchase price, so no worries there- Just don�t buy airfare until we know its a go on Feb 1
The class should fill. This class always has, sometimes at the last minute.
Well, I've made the plunge and signed up for the class. I'm not getting any younger and would love to learn from Jake Raby on the M96 engines. Thank you for making these classes and the instructional content available to the Porsche community. Excited!
Super envious to all of you doing the hands on. I took the 101 class last year and it was a great class with a lot of knowledge and great information. It was very well instructed. Unfortunately, the timing for the hands on just haven't worked for my work schedule. This coming up one, I will be traveling too. Cross my finger that just maybe I can jump in to the next one if there is one.
The service that we use for the 101 online classes allows us to record a video of the class. This includes the presentation, and the audio from the presenters, as well as interactivity between attendees. If someone can't make the class, we can provide the recorded version of that particular class, as long as they sign up as an attendee before the cut off time.
We then share that video via dropbox the day after the class with those that were not able to attend.
That's awesome!
I was planning on leaving work early on the 10th to drive home(1.5 hour drive) so I wouldn't be interrupted by my co-workers.
I've been worried because my power has been out at home several times the last three weeks.
It was out for 4 1/2 hours this morning. (According to my wife it was due to two transformers blowing)
I had decided that since I couldn't trust my power that I would take the course from work knowing I might(would) get interrupted.
Would the video be available for people who attend part of the class who might get interrupted by a power or Internet outage?
I actually posted a similar question to your site earlier today. having the video/audio would be great back up. Is there any other written documentation of the material covered?
Nothing written in the online class is included.
The Hans- On class comes with a color workbook thats a couple hundred pages. It's only available to those who attend the hands- on class.
signed up for the on line course. Will be scoping bank 2 of my engine this weekend so that may push me over the edge to sign up for the hands on as well (I hope I'm joking as I haven't seen any other issues with noise, metal in oil, filter, sump, etc..). Did find 4 small black plastic pieces in the sump plate though so IMS guide must have some wear.
I highly recommend these classes if you're interested in rebuilding your engine or just curious how everything works in M96
Check out my review of the engine rebuild classes
here
Okay based on this and Ashai's comments and knowing a few people have successfully built their own M96s after this class, I will sign up tonight. I can pay off the CC in April when I get that bonus and I don't want to miss this class. I will schedule the time off at work and hope 7 (my current count) or 8 is enough to get this done. Now the question is do I want to drive my Boxster S or 996 from DFW or rent a crap box at ATL for this adventure. It's a 13 hour drive and I don't have time to split up like I should. Anyone on the route want to help with the driving? I already have my hotel reserved using Hilton points (thanks work) in Helen.
It looks we are at 7 for the hands on class. If we get to 9 i'll have the class anyway, though my cut off is normally 10 to make it worth while. Thanks for signing up, guys.
The online class was a hit! Our biggest group ever turned out to be great. I have now increased our online capabilities for future classes. We can now handle up to 175 attendees at once.
That said, as of this morning the Hands-on class is filled! Not just booked to the minimum number of attendees to hold the class, but filled to capacity!
Due to demand we are looking into another date in 2019 to hold a second hands- on "M96 102 Hands- on class". This is not what I had expected.
To all of you who bought the recording of the class, it is now rendering and will be uploaded this evening. You'll have a link by noon tomorrow as long as technical difficulties don't strike! :-)
I was really planning on next year after buying a new house etc this year.... but I signed up just in case. If you are ever near Big D stop by after the class and we can talk about it, look at Porsche�s etc.
The hands on class is awesome! I attended May 2017 and it was worth every penny. Several of us posted our experiences after the class.
Jake is a great host and his team is awesome. If you are serious about learning more about the M96 engine there will never be a better opportunity.
I hope to be the second! A deal I was waiting on just got to the point where I could reasonably sign up for the 102 class, but it's filled - great for the community but bad for me
Hopefully Jake and Tony will be able to schedule another one for those of us left out on this one.
I am glad people are interested in the M96!
Got a question to the attendees of the class (either online, hands on):
If you where an hobby engine builder. Do you feel comfortable building an M96 engine to stockish power levels with some of the issues addressed? (I.e using nickies to avoid futher D-chunk).
Hobby engine builder = someone that has assembled "easy" engines with success (nissan, LS etc).
Guys...
Tony and I are checking to see if we have time to host a 2nd Online and Hands On Class in 2019, due to demand... Maybe so. Will let you know.
Its crazy the roller coaster this is.. One year we can't hardly get sign ups, the next year its booked to capacity 3 weeks before the cut off date.
Crazy!
Not exactly sure if you are asking the question I am answering....I attended the hands on class last year (after hearing it was going to be the last ever). I am not even a hobbyist by your definition. I've never rebuilt an engine, however, based on my experience in this class, I would definitely consider doing it. I know that, in my case, it would wind up being a slow, deliberate process and there are a lot gaps I need to fill in, particularly with respect to physical/dimensional inspection of existing components to ensure they are fit for reuse, but, yes, assembly of the short block is something I think I could do.
l am going to stop saying �this might be the last class�... l will just list the class once per year, and if it gets 10 sign ups at minimum, then we will have it.. If not, we won�t. The first time that happens is when l will cease listingit in the future. Its too hard to predict demand, and attendence in advance.
I am sure you could build the whole engine. You take it step by step, follow my workbook from the class, and pay attention. Break assembly down into 8 stages, and as you complete each step, and advance to the next your confidence grows. Before you know it, you have a running engine.
Jake, it wasn't a knock, it was simply that I felt that strongly about taking it that I wasn't gonna miss it. It was a great experience. I definitely feel that putting it back together is not a daunting proposition...I would just need to be methodical and patient!
My opinion, but I think it shows the continued interest in the 996. Speaking for myself, as a new owner that's also an enthusiast and DIY kind of person, I want to take this class so I
can
do it myself. Hopefully I'll be able to afford to take the class next year in case it's the last one. Don't give up on the community Jake!
I've rebuilt engines before (race and street, "conventional" I4, I6, V6 and V8) and I've only attended the online class, so I'll give you a partial answer.
The online class teaches you about the layout of the M96 and it's subsystems.
You'll also learn the short comings of the M96 engine, but doesn't teach you about engine rebuilding.
That's not what the online class is designed for.
It is a prerequisite so that when you show up to the hands-on class you won't be asking the questions that they want, and expect, you to already know.
Otherwise they would have to spend precious time answering IMS, AOS, fuel injector, cooling system, and oiling system (and etc) questions instead of allowing hands on time.
I believe it is valuable for
ALL
enthusiast owners to attend the online class.
You'll learn more about caring for your M96 in that class.
You'll also learn fact versus fiction from
THE
person who has been inside more M96es than anyone else in this forum.
You'll hear from Tony Callas who has rebuilt, and blown up, many M96es. (Not as many as Jake though)
Lots of questions lately in this forum were already answered in the online class.
I've seen lots of misinformation lately in some of the answers on this forum too.
The class ran an extra hour due in part to all the questions being asked by participants.
Jake and Tony stayed until
ALL
the questions were answered.
There was no, "Sorry guys we have to end, it's getting late" statement but several, "anymore questions" statements.
I've done a lot of studying of the Bentley service manual, Porsche PETs, the Pelican Parts Tech Article photos, looked at tons of M96 block/crank/cylinder head photos, read rebuild threads, bought the tools, and now I own a partial engine so that I can learn even more.
I feel like I could likely rebuild an M96 successfully without taking the hands-on class, but I'm getting too old to learn stuff the hard way.
I'd rather learn from Jake and Tony's experiences (successes and failures) so that I can minimize the risk of failure.
Learning the hard way is just too painful.
I hope to see y'all in class someday!
Bruce
The next hands on class begins in a few days. Taking the time off work is going to hurt a bit as they just moved me to a new division and I'm the only guy that does what I do and have to provide data to 10 other people.... but I'm really glad I'm taking this class. With a 986 S and 996 in the garage, I'm considering this mandatory. Who knows maybe I will buy all the tools and after I get my lift this next winter help out my local 996 and 986 owners with different things. I will probably post a few allowed photos and give a general class review too. If you want the specific knowledge though, you have to take the class yourself!
l am in full class prep mode currently.. The engine to be assembled is prepped, and l am arranging our tools, and assembly areas today. It will be good!
This makes our 40th edition of this class. Just realized that!
Day 2 of the class in the books. If you love you 9x6 / 9x7 and intend to keep them a long time, this class is worth every penny. The online class is good but touching, feeling and working with the actual engine is invaluable.
Honestly, Jake, Tony and Charles all have good businesses that need their attention. They make time to teach these classes because they love these cars. If you come to the class, you can see that for yourself.
I�m looking forward to day 3 and 4 and hopefully a hands on hi po class next year.
