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Replace tranny fluid and it was dark brown

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I changed my tranny fluid and it was dark brown...

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Check things

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+1......or go to the stealer ....they should know for sure.....i had them check things for free before......just as for a tranny oil change then right after u drive off tell them something is not right.....

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Replace with fresh

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And always I've said thank you and the tranny's fine after fluid replaced with fresh.

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Use transmissions and transaxle

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my condolences, but unfortunately i don't have a line on used transmissions and transaxle for a c4.

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Check things

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+1......or go to the stealer ....they should know for sure.....i had them check things for free before......just as for a tranny oil change then right after u drive off tell them something is not right.....

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Check vin#

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You will have to check your Vin# and then the trans # also.

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+1......or go to the stealer ....they should know for sure.....i had them check things for free before......just as for a tranny oil change then right after u drive off tell them something is not right.....

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Check vin#

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You will have to check your Vin# and then the trans # also.

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Check with them about tranny rebuilds

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I probably trashed the issue, but if anyone can recall those companies I'd like to check with them about tranny rebuilds.

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Replace ever at 40k miles

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1st change ever at 40K miles.

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Replace then right

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+1......or go to the stealer ....they should know for sure.....i had them check things for free before......just as for a tranny oil change then right after u drive off tell them something is not right.....

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Replace tranny fluid and it was dark brown

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I changed my tranny fluid and it was dark brown...

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Replace transmission

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Has anyone else here replaced a transmission on a C4, with either a new or used tranny, or rebuilt a transaxle?

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Would a rebuild be cost effective compared to replacing with a used unit?

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And always I've said thank you and the tranny's fine after fluid replaced with fresh.

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Use tranny, or rebuilt a transaxle

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Has anyone else here replaced a transmission on a C4, with either a new or used tranny, or rebuilt a transaxle?

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So, it turns out that the squeak I was hearing was coming from the transmission/transaxle, and there was an audible buzzing when the car was on the lift, with periodic snap, crackle, and pops. I told them to go ahead and drain the transmission oil and have a look, and sure enough, there are visible chunks of metal in the tranny oil. From what I gather, my transmission is toast. Has anyone else here replaced a transmission on a C4, with either a new or used tranny, or rebuilt a transaxle? The service manager made it sound like once the metal shavings have traveled through the whole of the transmission through the oil system, it's pretty much unrealistic to rebuild. Does anyone happen to have a good condition C4 transaxle lying around? ....AAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!......

POST 2Original post

that stinks. my condolences, but unfortunately i don't have a line on used transmissions and transaxle for a c4.

POST 3Original post

Most shops don't have the tools and/or expertise to rebuild a transmission. It might not be cost effective to do so, especially compared to sourcing a used unit, but just because there are metal parts floating free doesn't mean it can't be rebuilt. I'd get a second opinion about that.

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How many miles? year? usage? oil changed? front diff ok?.... sorry to hear about this... I changed my tranny fluid and it was dark brown... yet my front diff was still golden color. 1st change ever at 40K miles.

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75,000 miles total, ~12,000 of mine, and never abused in my time owning it, I'm not sure about previous oil changes, but the PO was very meticulous, so I feel certain if it ever needed it it was done. Front diff was fine. Would a rebuild be cost effective compared to replacing with a used unit? Aside from catastrophic problems, I understand that transmissions are relatively durable, correct? Any suggestions about good dismantlers/ used parts suppliers?

POST 6Original post

Rebuilts at Vertex seem pretty reasonable. www.vertexauto.com

POST 7Original post

buy a new one... forget the rebuilds unless they come with a great warranty

POST 8Original post

Find out how much Porsche wants for a factory rebuilt unit. Probably comes with warranty if they install it. Phil

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Quotes source post: 6580446

tranny/diff fluid at least in manual transmission equipped cars to have some metal debris, sometimes rather large pieces, come out with the oil, and especially at the 1st tranny fluid drain/refill. More than once I've had a "mechanic" (never at Porsche dealership though) show me the metal debris and tell me I need a new or rebuilt (usually rebuilt) tranny. And always I've said thank you and the tranny's fine after fluid replaced with fresh. When I went in for fluid change though there were no symptoms transmission was operating fine, well pretty good considering in some cases the miles on the fluid, though. If there were transmission problems before fluid drain the metal debris could very well be signs transmission's toast. Sincerely, Macster.

POST 11Original post

+1 for fill it up and try it.... its $100 worth of oil and could make a big differance. If nothing else you might be able to baby it till you find a replacement..

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

There was a pretty audible whirring noise with intermittent clicking that was not present in the C4 that was racked next to my car, based on the back-to-back comparison it was a pretty substantial noise, I must have just been accustomed to it and thus thought it was normal. I remember in a recent issue of excellence, there was an article about a few companies who are now doing rebuilds on m96 engines, does anyone know offhand what those companies are, and if they would perhaps rebuild transmissions as well? I probably trashed the issue, but if anyone can recall those companies I'd like to check with them about tranny rebuilds. Thanks for all the help thus far.... How about donations? : )

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Quotes source post: 6581305

+1......or go to the stealer ....they should know for sure.....i had them check things for free before......just as for a tranny oil change then right after u drive off tell them something is not right.....

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Quotes source post: 6581154

$10k (c2 price) installed, fyi. He can have his rebuit or purchase a rebuild from indies like vertex for under $5k. This includes install.

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I'm not sure what year your C4 is but ..... Wasn't there a recall for some very few select C4 models for a transmission replacement ? (It may have been for early 997 models, I just have a vague memory of seeing something). It might be worth a call to your local Porsche dealer. There was also a bulletin regarding a control unit replacement on the 996 or 993 cars as well, if memory serves correct.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 6585370

I thought that was the 6TT tranny.... 2nd pop out issue?

POST 17Original post

+1 for the refill and then just drive it. What's the worst that could happen? Noise from the tranny isn't really a good enough reason for me to drop 10G. I'd drive it till it stops working. But that's just me.

POST 18Original post

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I did some quick checking and here ya go for tiptronic transmissions requiring replacement, there is a vin# range of cars with each bulletin. 2004-2005 996 Service action W562 and also 2005 997 Service action W562 It covers certain VIN's for noises in tiptronic trans at high speeds or a limited operating program. You will have to check your Vin# and then the trans # also. It may be a long shot for you but if your car falls in the range then it means a free transmission, parts and labor, from your friendly Porsche dealer. If you are in the Dallas or Houston area PM me and I can get you with a dealer that knows about this and will be willing to help you out. Hope it works out for you,

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