27 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW
Discussion summary
YOUR RESEARCHDYI For Secondary Air Injection Pump 996
Leading reported evidence
Replace starter 6 months ago(diy)
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
This all started when I replaced my starter 6 months ago(DIY).
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
Leading evidence: 'Replace starter 6 months ago(diy)' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check ce codes periodically and learn' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
I'm fairly confident VW/Audi/Porsche used more or less the same SAI pump for all their cars in this era.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.
Check ce codes periodically and learn
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.
27 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.
Rennlist: 1 discussions
0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.
2 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.
Super simple.
1. Remove air box (not really needed, but gives you extra room to work)
2. Unplug tubes and electrical connection
3. Unbolt from car (3 or 4 10mm bolts IIRC)
Are you asking how to remove and replace it, or how to take it apart and clean it? Capt. Obvious has covered R/R. Taking it apart is more involved, but I have some pictures if you need them.
-Shawn
Yes, I would like to see the pics. My indy tells me I need to replace and said I should be able to do it myself. Where's the best source? He was saying the part is like $1200 or some crazy number and recommended I may just want to check my CE codes periodically and learn to love the CE light.
I've done that for a few thousand miles and am afraid I may be running rich. I'm due a weekend DIY anyway.
I'm fairly confident VW/Audi/Porsche used more or less the same SAI pump for all their cars in this era. When I get home I'll compare them on my cars. If I'm right, you can get a used VW/Audi pump for like $20 on eBay.
There is no way to prevent a CEL by using a resistor or "bypass" when you remove the SAI. When the ECU triggers the SAI to run, it looks for a lean burn reading from the primary O2s as part of the readiness scan. To get rid of the CEL you need to program out the SAI and/or force a readiness pass (read: you need custom software).
I didn't have much luck finding an equivalent Audi/VW part, but I'd love to hear about it. I ended up purchasing a used pump off of Ebay for ~$150. Despite several attempts to clean it up I still had the annoying sound on startup. The bearings are "sealed" and must have enough grit in them to have caused damage.
Has anybody tried the Bosch OEM replacement secondary air pump:
http://www.autoatlanta.com/results.p...605%20104%2000
Mine sounds like a circular saw on start-up, and $470 seems a lot better than $1650...
Lon,
Thank you so much.
Rennlist is AWESOME!
Still would like to find a DIY. I,m at weekend shade tree mechanic and it's not the weekend and no shade trees.
PS Took the 996 up 176 via the Saluda Grade to Hendersonville and did some hiking with my son.
What an awesome drive! I haven't had thrills like that since my last race. I recommend that drive to anyone.
Going back a few posts, yes, I removed the SAI pump and would get two recurring CEL error codes because of the vacuum leaks and/or because the "open" electrical circuits and sensors.
For entirely different reasons I'm rebuilding my motor now and the builder has blocked off the SAI ports and claims to have "removed" the smog features from the motor (car is a track car anyway). He also claims no more CEL codes because of this. We'll see.
Now, I have a SAI pump for sale. Anybody need one--will be much less than $500!
I'm still not sure mines not a vacuum leak. This all started when I replaced my starter 6 months ago(DIY). Indy assures me I did it right and connected all hoses but I'm still thinking that's the root cause. We'll see.
How can this stupid little thing cost so much?
I removed mine recently to replace my coolant tank. It looks like a little fan encased in plastic. Probably cost $5 to manufacture.
Some thing I don't mind paying the Porsche tax for but this one is crazy...
I had tell-tale signs of SAI switch failure on my 986S last year; fuses were good and I could hear SAI kicking on, but the O2 sensors were showing clear signs it was NOT injecting extra air, and were thus throwing a code. (I picked up a bluetooth OBDII reader and could watch/plot/log the data in real-time on my phone, which was extremely helpful.) I had just had an AOS fail, and was worried all that oil had destroyed something expensive... But ended up I had just knocked the vacuum line off the SAI vacuum reservoir while changing the AOS and hadn't noticed. So little air was leaking that it didn't impact performance, but the pressure loss was enough that the SAI vacuum switch wasn't actuating. Stuck the line back on, good as new!
there is some talk about this on the Renntrack forums
http://www.renntrack.com/forums/show...jection-system
I thought Krazy had posted a DIY but I don't see it.
