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YOUR RESEARCHno love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

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Changed jobs added commuter miles.

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Check head studs, valve guides, etc

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Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

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Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

Check ims, rms, aos, etc.and i'll get back

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Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

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Replace engine

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He figures when it blows he can afford to replace the engine twice.

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Use erosion management

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In our first (BMW) AutoX a guy with more money than sense showed up with a Z06 and got stupid with it after the event, jumped the curb, and sent it down an embankment covered in the big stones they use for erosion management.

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Check head studs, valve guides, etc

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Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

Check ims, rms, aos, etc.and i'll get back

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Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

Replace engine

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He figures when it blows he can afford to replace the engine twice.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

Replace jobs added commuter miles

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Changed jobs added commuter miles.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums

Use erosion management

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In our first (BMW) AutoX a guy with more money than sense showed up with a Z06 and got stupid with it after the event, jumped the curb, and sent it down an embankment covered in the big stones they use for erosion management.

no love for the 996 anywhere on the air cooled forums
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

What a shame, aren't we all Porsche enthusiast's here? They're after all 911's as well.

POST 2Original post

Uhm, could you clarify what you mean? Why would the AC forums be praising the 996?

POST 3Original post

You could say the same thing about Boxsters - not too many 911 owners show much love for us 986 owners either......

POST 4Original post

And those 996 MK2 guys keep calling my headlights ugly. Sometimes I cry myself to sleep about it.

POST 5Original post

Here'd my theory. Porsche owner's are insecure middle aged balding men with small *****'s (peni?). Except for me. I am young, full head of hair, and hung like bull. This is the only forum that I belong to where everyone hates everyone else and what they drive. There is a lot of mine is better than yours. The AC vs WC discussions, everyone vs the 996, 911 vs boxster, the comments I see here from one 996 owner to another, all baffle me. So all I can conclude is that Porsche owners have issues. Me included. Now I am just going to sit back and wait for the comment from someone to just tell me to sell my car and move on because reading what I write bothers them.

POST 6Original post

In other news, the weatherman said theres a chance of snow this winter..

POST 7Original post

Let's all troll the AC forums and rag on their lack of water cooling. KK, any tips on trolling? "OMG, your car is so under powered it doesn't need water to cool it, LOL!" "Or, you paid what?! Sucker!"

POST 8Original post

^^ haha. Sorry, I thought that was a Beetle with a body kit.

POST 9Original post

Well, in terms of technology, the 996 is leaps ahead of the ACs, so let them be happy in their own bubble. Also, at least we drive our cars. Now that AC prices are going up, no AC owner wants to rack up the miles.

POST 10Original post

I would totally buy a 993 if I hated performance and comfort.

POST 12Original post

How do AC cars handle bumper-to-bumper traffic? I mean how much air can they possibly get going 2 mph?

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hahaha somehow this escalated into air cooled bashing not my intention at all. Maybe us Porsche owners do have problems after all

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I never said we should praise the 996 as superior, I just think we should all respect all Porsches. They all have flaws just like us. I used to own a 911sc and 944 turbo and now a 996. Neither was perfect

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Come now, if it weren't for you Boxster owners who would take care of my hair? OP, Seriously? All 356 and 911 owners think their model is the pinnacle of Porsche design and anything newer is just kowtowing to the masses and ruining the driving dynamics. It makes no sense to me, but thats how it is. You want real Porsche hate? Show up to an AutoX in a diesel Cayenne. Bonus points if you can out perform all the precious AC cars

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well this 911 owner has love for the 986 after all it's the same marque

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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better than turning to alcohol like I have haha jk

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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How can somebody that's hung like a bull have any issues? You my friend have made it.

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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haha no trolling the ac forum wasn't my intention when starting this thread

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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hahaha sadly we are quick in comebacks from all the bashing we get by the air cooled guys.

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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eh that is sadly true for the most part the air cooled owners only are driving their cars to car shows to pose

POST 22 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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serious question? I am horrible at sarcasm

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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haha please tell me you actually did that in a diesel cayenne?

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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doesn't the 996's share a lot of the same suspension design of the 993's?? I don't understand why they say the 996 suspension has gone soft.

POST 26Original post

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Yes I did and I indeed hear some "what is he doing here with that" and "thats not even a real Porsche" comments behind my back before registration. Unlike the GTS owner that was afraid to see what it could really do, I flung that beast of a P!g around all day and had a blast. I couldn't compete with the 9X6 cars or anything newer than the 996, but I could keep up with or best anything older other than a few purpose tuned cars. Some people actually were impressed and started talking to me, but I heard a few making the typical excuses Most of the people at the event were really cool though regardless of the car they drove.

POST 27 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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nothing that is beneficial for you. What was the purpose for your comment?

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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haha curious to know what those excuses were?

POST 29Original post

Tire pressures were off, sun was at a bad angle, too cold, etc... The usual stuff you hear from overblown egos that can't accept that the world is not exactly as they believe/want it to be.

POST 30Original post

go to ANY forum.....there will always be INTRA bashing/hating. nothing new really

POST 31Original post

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I hate to disagree but I frequent 5 forums. The wheel horse guys, the pontiac guys, and the ford excursion guys never have anything bad to say. Even when I got my e60 5 series (the ones with the funny, I mean cool headlights, the bashing lasted only a little while. By the time the F10 5 series came the e60 bashing was long gone.

POST 32 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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haha to cold? Isn't cold temperatures beneficial to engine performance

POST 33Original post

speaking of beauty, ugly headlights, watercooling etc etc...

POST 34Original post

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AutoX is more about grip than power

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I wouldn't mind owning that

POST 36 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Good point

POST 37Original post

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Here's* owners* penises* Boxster* I didn't really have anything to add, but I couldn't resist doing SOMETHING if you're sitting there waiting...

POST 38Original post

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...unless you're in a car with both. I believe I could probably wipe the floor with 90% of the air-cooled Porsche snobs in existence with my $10K Corvette...and I know at least two guys with bone-stock early 986 Boxsters who can demolish me consistently. You can put the best driver in the crappiest car imaginable, and he's still got a good chance of beating any mediocre driver in a great car. Note that I am still endeavoring to master mediocre driving... Everyone wants their club to be exclusive. Especially the a**holes.

POST 39Original post

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Funny you mention that. In our first (BMW) AutoX a guy with more money than sense showed up with a Z06 and got stupid with it after the event, jumped the curb, and sent it down an embankment covered in the big stones they use for erosion management. It was not in good shape when then finally pulled it out. Apparently the kid had already wrecked a couple of his mom's Porsches so she thought the Vette would be appropriate

POST 40Original post

Fast cars and stupidity are a wicked combo. I remember watching some tool with a brand-new Turbo spinning his car - over and over and over and over - because he couldn't wrap his head around turbo lag. He'd try to blast out of every corner, the turbo would spool, and the rear end came around, and I swear to God it was a surprise for this guy every single time. I made sure not to work corners during his sessions. My pool guy is one of the only guys who "gets it" - a garage with a Corvette and a 911 can be a fun garage indeed. I prefer the 'Vette in the rain - aluminum and fiberglas don't rust, and with ASR off (primitive PSM), it's like being on a skid pan.

POST 41Original post

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Hey, you been reading my fan mail??????

POST 42Original post

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Well when you become such an easy target, it's best to keep your mouth shut. I belong to a Jag XKE list......there's always ragging between the S1/SII/SIII and 2+2 owners...........all in good fun of course.....eeeerrr, yeah, right.

POST 43Original post

you guys do realize that folks who own 996s probably also own ACs and 991s....right?

POST 44 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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sure....

POST 45Original post

Comparing AC cars and WC cars is like comparing apples and oranges. Quantitatively the WC cars win every time. Qualitatively, not so much. I've had a 996 (40th anniversary) and a 997... You'll never hear me bash them. They are great cars. I just decided that the AC cars were more appealing to me. Now, get back to checking your IMS, RMS, AOS, etc.and I'll get back to checking my head studs, valve guides, etc.

POST 46Original post

I own a few of all of them.. I appreciate each differently. The water cooled cars are what I drive when the weather is either wet, crazy hot, or crazy cold.. Otherwise, I'll be driving something without coolant in it's cooling system.

POST 47Original post

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EXACTLY! All ya'll are doing is Lowering yourself down to their Level!

POST 48Original post

And, Guys EVERY Car Forum (except maybe the Prius Forum) has that Red-Headed Step-Child that's Picked On! I Don't care if it's the Hummers, Mercedes, Vipers or EVEN Vettes, they ALL make a Less Expensive (Cheaper) Version! Remember, Poor People like Nice Cars Also! jmo! Now Go Enjoy WHATEVER YOU HAVE & Don't WORRY about ANYBODY Else!

POST 49Original post

Wait, there is a Prius forum? Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

POST 50Original post

Porsche owners of all ilk have much in common with Vette and Harley owners. They are distinct sub-species with intense loyalties to particular models and like minded owners. Their loyalties inevitably lead to deep biases and an irresistible propensity to bash all "non-members". I don't have problem with that. relinuca

POST 51Original post

If you dont have a 63-73 AC car you dont have a real Porsche either, according to the 911 AC crowd, I guess you have to spend an ungodly amount of money to have that real Porsche.

POST 52Original post

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Crap...I guess my 996 is actually a Camry. That sucks cause they got the badging right.

POST 53Original post

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I am a dedicated Porsche fan, I do like almost everyone of them but if Cayenne is more or less bearable (only talking about exterior design) then this - panamera, simply looks **** and personally if I don't like the looks of the car it can be made of pure gold, I don't want it, I can come over some problems it has technically or some specialities, but the car has to apeal to me and EVERYTHING wins over the panamera, the 6er gran coupe, the maserati quatroporte, cls and all other things out there panamera sucks (from the aesthetitcal point of view), sorry my own subjective opinion. don't want to convince anyone to agree with me.

POST 54Original post

and concerning all the sh1ttalk about air cooled cars and watercooled cars it reminds me the same thing about stupid people wanting to be clever and saying that 944 is the same as a 924 which (in their opinion) is essentially a volkswagen and therefore it is not a real porsche. so chill out, a porsche is a porsche, even the ugly duckling panamera (no matter how I hate the looks of it) it is still a porsche. all these stupid hate generating threads about real and "unreal" porsches should be deleted after the first post.

POST 55 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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this wasn't a hate generating thread that wasn't my intention upon posting.

POST 56Original post

You guys are missing the point. My 996 was THE best Porsche. Until I sold it. Now my 997 is THE best Porsche. That is...until I buy my next one.

POST 57Original post

Owned them all prefer the cars with race proven engines. Water is Great in a GT3. Question for the 996 crowed. How many of you have ever owned an air cooled car? From an enthusiast stand point hard to knock an Air Cooled experience on a twisty country road regardless of what is in your garage. I personally only know of one person that sold there 993 to upgrade to a 996. He loves it. Changed jobs added commuter miles. Sold his 993 and still had $30k in his pocket. He figures when it blows he can afford to replace the engine twice. Both great cars geared toward totally different audiences.

POST 58 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I owned a 1978 911sc prior to my 996 aero package, I In no way intended this thread to be about air cooled bashing. Fwiw

POST 59Original post

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Agree with the last point. As I posted earlier...apples to oranges comparison between AC and WC As to the first point, I see a shift in owner profiles/demographics that all cars go through. This forum is VERY different from what I remember in 2007 when I owned my 40th Anniversary (#590). There were the same IMS posts back then; however, now there is almost a "bitter" tone. it's hard to describe.....

POST 60Original post

Substitute Porsche's for Panties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVNSyQ002Rs I like them all.

POST 61Original post

I own an AC car as well as my 996 which is my daily driver.

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