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You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) .
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You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) .
Inspect car and everything checks out, i would not hesitate
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if you can verify the history and inspect the car and everything checks out, I would not hesitate.
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Been looking to replace a 99 996 I wrote off last summer.
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You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) .
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You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) .
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You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) .
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Been looking to replace a 99 996 I wrote off last summer. Came across a 99 996 C2 coupe with 83k miles for $16k on Aututrader. It is at United Imports Inc. in Jacksonville Florida.
Dealer has sent me a copy of history report showing possible 6 owners. Also says engine was rebuilt in 2011 and provided copy of a quote (not an invoice) showing $7200 rebuild.
Concerned about number of owners and need to contact mechanics to verify rebuild was actually done. Anyone know anything about this car or about the dealer? Definitely itching to get back on the road. Just want to make sure I'm not getting overanxious.
Appreciate any feedback.
Thanks
Mike
The price almost seems too good if there are no issues and a rebuilt motor. The number of owners is not a problem uses you are a collector and waiting for this to be a classic collector car. Then number of owners and accidents matter. If you are buying it to drive it, then it's a whole different story. if you can verify the history and inspect the car and everything checks out, I would not hesitate. In this case I might even look up the last owner.
The car will be a 3 season DD. I am primarily concerned about getting verification the engine work was actually performed. I will definitely have a PPI done if I go forward. Thanks for your response.
Let me Google that for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manheim_Auctions
Seriously, a Manheim search can be a useful way to find out history on a used car.
It is an obvious thing to suggest but you should pull your own carfax and autocheck (they may show up different things) and also google the vin to see if any prior sales come up.
Mannheim is a big auction site for registered dealers and not available to everyone. Sometimes a google search of the vin turns up old ads for the same car. Other than that, the Carfax and autocheck just give you registration and accident info if it was reported.
Thanks for posting the link Marc. That's the car. Haven't been able to confirm the rebuild. Starting to back away.
RPM - The $16k was interesting because the IMS has supposedly been addressed and the price point left me with $5-6k to clean it up.
Gator - I would appreciate any insight you may have.
Well, can't say I know the car. The dealer is definitely an auction buyer like most small dealers. Not saying they are shady at all but they buy where they buy. I would guess they picked it up for around $10k or so on the high end.
It's a very early 99. IF the rebuild is legit the price may not be too far off like others have said. I would wonder what documentation they would be able to produce if it's an auction car.
Definite due diligence on this one. If you want to go further I can point you to a good PPI shop in Jax.
I will be over there Saturday for our PCA car show so maybe I can swing by and put some eyeballs on it and see what intel I can scrounge up.
The engine rebuild sounds like BS. No invoice, the ad says "Inter shaft already done in 2011", the amount he gave you would be a cheap "rebuild" anyway…
6 owners, K&N air filter, aftermarket exhaust tips, 19" wheels, "amberectomy" on the cheap (side markers), it looks more like a young guy(s) first Porsche than a garage queen to me.
That being said, if you have a PPI done and it checks out, and you end up getting it for $13-14K, that might not be a bad deal. You told us you have $5-6K ready to be put in the car to fix what needs to be fixed and that sound about right (I would have the transmission dropped and IMS checked no matter what, AOS/RMS replaced while you're there, ~1k) . As said before, a $15k 996 will still be a $20k 996 by the time you're done with it.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...sed-996-a.html
Dealer said it was a trade in. Apparently has some additional misc receipts which seems better than most dealer vehicles.
I'd appreciate your checking it out if you get the chance. Used car buying is always stressful. Add in the long distance factor and you waffle back and forth between "damn it I'll get it anyways" to totally gun shy. I'm paranoid about engine failure. Everything else I can handle.
Dont worry Mike, we wont let you make a hasty and uninformed decision. I will swing over and see what records are available, check out the sounds and smells, etc.
From the pics, this car does look very clean and decent, actually a bargain for $16K. But as others said you got to check everything out real hard to make sure that there are no hidden issues somewhere. Lucky you have Gator996 locally to take a first look for you... Good-luck!
Really doesn't seem that cheap - I'd say appropriately priced for a seller who actually wants to sell the car. Gator sold his previous car last year for a similar price, and even though it had more miles on it, it was a beautiful car with some great mods. If I were to guess, I'd bet the dealer probably paid about $12k - $13k wholesale for it.
Hi Guys,
Just want to give a shout out to Gator for going above & beyond for a fellow rennlister. It's great to know that we have a network of knowledgeable members that are willing to help.
Thanks again and here is the covert report:
[QUOTE=Gator996]Greetings Mike,
I stopped in and saw the car today. It was an interesting experience.
Firstly, the dealer. I'm not too sure about this guy. He said he emailed all the documents to you and he really wouldn't let me go through the folder of receipts. He did show me the engine rebuild estimate from a short distance. Now, this was an estimate from a shop in Ft. Lauderdale. He could not say if the work was actually done. It was over 7k as you know. My guy feeling is that the owner probably got the estimate, freaked out and dumped the car. It makes no sense to me to spend 7k on a rebuild a year ago and then walk away. I wouldn't! I could be way off but a call to that mechanic will confirm whether the work was done. The shop info should be on the estimate he emailed you.
Condition: the interior is pretty clean and I saw no major red flags. The exterior needs some TLC. The paint needs be seriously polished out. It's hard to tell the true condition until you buff it down. It's very dull. I am a pro/show car Detailer and I wouldn't touch it for less than $500. I would estimate at least 10 hours to really make the paint awesome.
Both front headlights need to be replaced. The inner lenses are both melted. It's a common problem on 996's. Figure 300-400 a piece on EBay well used. They are 800 a piece new.
The tail lights are the early 1999 with the yellow turn lenses. We all hate those but they are an easy and not too expensive change.
I could not drive it or barely walk around it since there were so many cars crammed inside this "showroom". Lots of BMW's and two 993's that were sold.
He has lowered the price down to under 16k. Now, IF the rebuild could be proven this might be a decent proposition. Without the rebuild it's more of a 13-14k car at the most assuming something is wrong in the motor. This guy had no mechanical knowledge whatsoever. NONE.
So, with all that said, I would recommend this if you are still interested: call that shop in Ft. Lauderdale and see if you can get more details on the motor. There are some really good Porsche shops in Jacksonville that could do a thorough PPI.
I bought my first 996 a few years ago for 14k. It was a 2000 and a steal until I tossed 6k into in preventive maintenance. I was impatient and chasing a cheap purchase price. I paid dearly for it later. The 996 I know has an impeccable pedigree and patience paid off. Just sayin. Don't jump on the first good deal as it may not be.
