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Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

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YOUR RESEARCHSurvey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

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Install michelins

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Bought my 99 C2 used @ 17K miles P-zeroes had lots of wear left but were so horribly noisy and wanted to tramline I installed Michelins.

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Replace rears @ 12,000 miles

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I changed my rears @ 12,000 miles.

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Use @ 17k miles p-zeroes had lots of wear left

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Bought my 99 C2 used @ 17K miles P-zeroes had lots of wear left but were so horribly noisy and wanted to tramline I installed Michelins.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace four s03's

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The front could have lasted a couple of thousand miles more but I replaced all four S03's because 2000 more miles wasn't worth bearing with the toll on handling from difference in wear front vs rear if I only changed the rears.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace p-zeros

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That's what I'm thinking of replacing the P-Zeros with.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?
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Install michelins

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Bought my 99 C2 used @ 17K miles P-zeroes had lots of wear left but were so horribly noisy and wanted to tramline I installed Michelins.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace four s03's

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The front could have lasted a couple of thousand miles more but I replaced all four S03's because 2000 more miles wasn't worth bearing with the toll on handling from difference in wear front vs rear if I only changed the rears.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace p-zeros

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That's what I'm thinking of replacing the P-Zeros with.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace rears

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Suggestion · Original poster

Can we get away with just replacing the rears on a C4?

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

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The front could have lasted a couple of thousand miles more but I replaced all four S03's because 2000 more miles wasn't worth bearing with the toll on handling from difference in wear front vs rear if I only changed the rears.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Replace rears @ 12,000 miles

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I changed my rears @ 12,000 miles.

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Run different tires front

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It is always a bad idea to run different tires front to rear because they won't be the same and give equal feel, wear and slip.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?

Set @ 8800

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Still on my first set @ 8800, but need rears badly.

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Set on my 996

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First original set on my 996:

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Set same p-zeros

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Second set, same P-Zeros

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Use @ 17k miles p-zeroes had lots of wear left

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Bought my 99 C2 used @ 17K miles P-zeroes had lots of wear left but were so horribly noisy and wanted to tramline I installed Michelins.

Survey: How many miles on your P-Zeros?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Before replacing. I've got 9,500 now.

POST 2Original post

First original set on my 996: Rears: 5000 (wheel explosion, had to replace one wheel and two rear tires). Fronts: 14000 Second set, same P-Zeros Rears: 9000 Original fronts were at 14000 as above Third set: Rears: 13500 Fronts: still on at 14000

POST 3Original post

Still on my first set @ 8800, but need rears badly. Fronts will last thru another set of rears, then am considering something else that lasts a little longer. Don't know what yet.

POST 4Original post

I've only got 3790 miles on mine, but I can tell that they are wearing faster than any other tire I have ever owned. I don't necessarily mind as the feel, grip and lack of road noise is excellent!

POST 5Original post

Bought my 99 C2 used @ 17K miles P-zeroes had lots of wear left but were so horribly noisy and wanted to tramline I installed Michelins.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Can we get away with just replacing the rears on a C4?

POST 7Original post

i had about 13,000 miles on my tires before i sold the car.... the PPI showed that the tires were still in good condition

POST 8Original post

I changed my rears @ 12,000 miles. Fronts are still good @ 16,000.

POST 9Original post

Replaced mine at 8500 miles. Front still had maybe 50%, but rears were gone. Had to buy another set of P=zeros. Wanted Michellin sport cups, but not available in C4S sizes. Thought about P-corsa, but didn't know where to get them at that time .

POST 10Original post

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Rob in WA: <strong>Can we get away with just replacing the rears on a C4?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Rob i think you can change the rears only if the front are in good condition says about 75-85% and very important, the front rears they have to be not older than ~one year.(since the rubber get thick with time). Maybe some one knows better than me this case. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

POST 11Original post

I was under the impression that the tread wear on these tires is heavily influenced by the kind of roads one drives on. For example I've heard that everything else equal (e.g. driving style), regular driving on deteriorating asphalt can cost thousands of miles compared to newly paved concrete. Makes sense, but am I really saving that much? I put over 14,000 on a C2; currently at 5000 on the C4.

POST 12Original post

I know that this has been discussed before, but I'd like fresh feedback. My rears are getting somewhat worn at nearly 10K miles. As usual, the fronts could go another round. On a C4 (like mine), is there an issue, drivetrain-wise, in having "mismatched" tires? Actually, I guess that they're mismatched (in the other direction) right now. The fronts cost less than the rears, so why not change tham all?

POST 13Original post

mismatched? They are directional tires and will not wear nor handle correctly if they are in the opposite direction I am told. It is always a bad idea to run different tires front to rear because they won't be the same and give equal feel, wear and slip. I have done it in the past when I have bought cars with mismatched f and r and every time I have replaced them with equal front and rear the car was much nicer and more neutral to drive. Better said it was more predictable becuase the tires did the same thing for the most part at the same rates or close too it. Hope that gives you an idea.

POST 14Original post

mismatched? They are directional tires and will not wear nor handle correctly if they are in the opposite direction I am told. It is always a bad idea to run different tires front to rear because they won't be the same and give equal feel, wear and slip. I have done it in the past when I have bought cars with mismatched f and r and every time I have replaced them with equal front and rear the car was much nicer and more neutral to drive. Better said it was more predictable becuase the tires did the same thing for the most part at the same rates or close too it. Hope that gives you an idea.

POST 15Original post

Sorry I wasn't more clear. By "mismatched" I meant of different age/wear. Like having the same fronts with the second set of rears.

POST 16Original post

My S03's only lasted me 10,000 miles in my C4. The front could have lasted a couple of thousand miles more but I replaced all four S03's because 2000 more miles wasn't worth bearing with the toll on handling from difference in wear front vs rear if I only changed the rears.

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Did you like the S03s Carlos? That's what I'm thinking of replacing the P-Zeros with.

POST 18Original post

I love them! after the S02's (which lasted less) they are the best tires I ever tried. On dry, the top 3 are all pretty close (Michelin Pilot Sports, P-Zeros and S03's) but on wet they really shine, its incredible how tires that wide can offer so much grip in wet. Check out TireRack's comnparisom of the top tires: <a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testResultsModel.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+S-03+Pole+Position" target="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testResultsModel.jsp?tir eMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+S-03+Pole+Position</a>

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