Fabspeed Performance Package on order

OK, my order was placed today for the "Fabspeed Performance Package." Per Fabspeed's description: This is a complete Fabspeed 996 Maxflo high performance exhaust system from manifolds to tips. System includes: Maxflo Sport headers with copper gaskets, 200 cell high-flow X-Pipe sportcats, Maxflo Mufflers with either polished or black chrome tips, and your choice of either the cold air kit with BMC filter or the *new* carbon fiber competition style intake system. German imported 200 cell high flow catalytic converters. High quality 14-16 gauge T304 stainless steel�much stronger than competitors� systems. Saves 12 lbs.from the rear of your car. Looks like they had to order in the X-pipe, so I have to wait until next week for it to ship. Crap, now it's the Hyundai to drive for a couple weeks or so. I'll post pix and sound clips, before and after the install, and give you guys some feedback. [Hey, how can I insert a video clip from my digital camera? Do I have to do it as a YouTube link or something?]

It doesn't come with a tuned ecu? I would think that would be needed to extract the most from that setup.

That is available, but will have to wait for another round of Mastercard bills to add in. Apparently, stainless steel has a value similar to platinum based on what I'm already spending.

You will love the new Fabspeed setup. I have it and love it.

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I hear you. I pieced my whole system together from various manufacturers and bought used, and it was still quite a chunk of change by the time I was done(well technically two more mods to go).

"...but will have to wait for another round of Mastercard bills to add in". AND, get my wife to approve another round. That can be a daunting task.

mastercard is smoking after that one... The car is going to sound incredible.

That's a great buy for your car. Fabspeed makes top notch parts.

dyno before and after ?

You know, I have been giving that lots of thought... would love to do that. Hmmm...... Fabspeed has a video clip online with a before and after dyno, but sure would be great to see it on my car.... But then, what if I do the exhaust, dyno it, and only find a 3 HP increase? If I don't do the dyno, the HP increase is whatever I can fool myself to believe.

Update: I just got an email from Fabspeed. They apparently have the X pipe now, and will be shipping everything tomorrow. Would any of you guys save any parts from the old exhaust system? This will be a full replacement for me, from headers to tips. I'm still toying with the idea of dynoing it before and after. But, that will add more time and I'm chomping at the bit to get back on the road!

Ah you got to dyno it for us.....please?

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yes please do...could be some interesting data points both before and after. here's a shop in Sandy Eggo that could do it for you: http://www.jbaracing.com/custom-dyno-tuning.asp

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If you have the space save it. If you go to sell the car privately the exhaust could be a deal breaker for the buyer especially if it is loud. I know many people who can't stand the loud exhaust on cars. I on the other hand would think it is a bonus. Just my $.02. Can't wait to hear this thing

Thanks, GuyIncognito, I know that shop well (JBA) and have been there several times. I'm up in north county (Oceanside), so quite a haul from here. I'll ask around. There's a race shop about a mile from here... I hear their dyno all the time, from my house. I never stopped in.... wonder if they will take a walk-in. I don't have room in the garage to store the old exhaust, but I could toss it out behind the garage. Not my preference, though. The Fabspeed is supposed to have a good sound, but not so loud that it is obnoxious. Seems like at a mininum, someone here might like the headers? They are easy to store.

Should have gone supercup's while you were at it...now that's LOUD...and some good weight saving

This car is my daily driver, and I often meet clients, so I don't want "LOUD". No plans to track it, other than maybe an autocross or two... the mods are purely for my hedonistic enjoyment. The new system should, however shave some weight off of the OEM.

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If you do dyno before and after, that will make or break Fabspeed sales I'm speculating until this post dies down or goes away(could be well over a year). There is a member that dyno'd his full Fabspeed setup on 6speed but that was only one data point. It would be nice to see another.

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I Just Got An Email Yesterday from Them Offering A 20% Discount on All of Their Set-Ups even The ECU Tuned Ones! Did You Get This Discount! jw!

Nope, no email from them. Can you forward it to me? My email is in my user profile. Much appreciated!

Yo, anyone from Fabspeed monitoring this thread??? How about some free overnight shipping, at least (due to the long wait for the part). If I dyno it before and after, and see significant increase in HP, this should be great for your business. Can you imagine any better advertising??? [if dyno results are poor, well, that stinks for all of us]. Let me check around for a local shop that can dyno before and after the Fabspeed install....

I got the Fabspeed intake and some generic bypass pipes...I still have Fabspeed exhaust tips. I think they make some good stuff. I have not noticed any increase or decrease with anything. The intake was a nice little sound difference but with the bypass pipes....I no longer can hear the intake. LOL.

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I believe we did overnight the parts. If you want to have some really good before & after data that we can compare with each other, I suggest taking the car to a place with a Dynojet as well as the DLM (datalogger). This is imperative as it allows us to see if the dyno test was performed properly or if there are issues with the car. Once the dyno's are complete, you can send me the actual run files and I can create comparison graphs and also look at important data, such as ECT (engine coolant temp), IAT (intake air temp) ignition advance (timing). These all play a huge factor in how much power is put down. Here is a list of dynojet automotive dyno centers in California: http://www.dynojet.com/dyno_centers/....aspx?state=CA Looking forward to a 3rd party independent before & after, as I believe you will be pleased with the results.

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catbypass pipes actually lose power unless you have a highly modified engine (higher CR, different cams, ect). So, you may have gained a little with the intake, loss some with the catbypass, and are now around stock. Sounds a lot better though.

Thanks! I see there's a shop on your list that is local. I'll give them a call. I spent a good part of yesterday trying to hunt down a local place that had a chassis dyno, came up with nothing.

[QUOTE=Chris@Fabspeed;10689980]catbypass pipes actually lose power unless you have a highly modified engine (higher CR, different cams, ect). So, you may have gained a little with the intake, loss some with the catbypass, and are now around stock. Sounds a lot better though.[/QUOTE I do not have cat bypass pipes, just exhaust bypass pipes OEM cats are still in the car.

OK, the Fabspeed parts arrived (see list in original post at top of thread)! The dyno shop here could not fit me in, crap. The only other local guy I could find only had an engine dyno, no chassis dyno. And I've been without my car for two weeks now, so I guess there will be no "before" dyno. Damn. Oh well, I can still get the "after" dyno done. Porsche claims the car has 320 HP stock. I wonder how accurate that figure is? Certainly, plenty of people must have dyno'd stock 996 3.6L engines! If you have stock dyno data, please post here. Here's the parts (see below). As anticipated, they appear to be very high quality.

Awesome!!! Cuda911, if you would not mind.....please IM me some pics of that 1970 Cuda....that is one of my dream cars.

No doubt it will look awesome speeding away :-)

Parts look really nice! I'm thinking of an exhaust as my first mod so I'm looking forward to hearing yours.

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Carcster88, do you drive your car in the heavy rain or snow? I looked at the CAIs for the 996, all of them come with warnings regarding driving in "fair" weather only. I intend to drive mine through snow and sleet during the winter months to go snowboarding, so I didn't feel comfortable buying the CAI and then hydrolocking the engine. From the installation pictures it does look like rain would drop right on the filter. PS, didn't mean to hijack the thread Cuda911.

OK, finally got my car back today!!! It's been a long wait.... the X-pipes were not originally available and had to be ordered (or fabricated?) by Fabspeed. My installer had to slightly tweak a pipe (unfortunately, the stock Fabspeed didn't quite fit). That took another couple days (since he had other jobs he was working on). I was super busy with work, so even though I REALLY wanted my car back home, I decided to just be patient. I picked the car this morning, and took it for a 150-mile drive today. So far, I like the Fabspeed system VERY much. I was worried it would be too loud... I have no intention of Ricing out my car! Happy to report.. at idle it is quite tame. At "reserved" driving style it is quite tame. At "spirited" driving style, it sounds great!!! Sounds like the serious exhaust system it is... no "tinny" sound. No obnoxious "look at me" sound. Just a nice, clean "hey, this car has an exhaust system befitting of its heritage" sound. (I will make and post sound clips, see comments below). Throttle response seems to be improved; HP seems to be greater. But, as a science geek, I need hard data. So, off to the dyno shop as soon as I can get that scheduled. I will do my best to post a video and sound clip in the very near future. I want to make a clip where I can open up the throttle, and enlist a friend to do the camera work for some drive-bys. Oh, of the option list in my original post: I chose the chromed exhaust tips and the cold air intake. Kalashnikov posted the following question: "Carcster88, do you drive your car in the heavy rain or snow? I looked at the CAIs for the 996, all of them come with warnings regarding driving in "fair" weather only. I intend to drive mine through snow and sleet during the winter months to go snowboarding, so I didn't feel comfortable buying the CAI and then hydrolocking the engine. From the installation pictures it does look like rain would drop right on the filter." The Fabspeed CAI routes under the air intake cover, so no concerns about driving in the rain (of course, it only rains about 5 to 10 days a year here). I will post pix shortly. I also chose to replace all four O2 sensors, since my car is high mileage. The price tag for all this???? AYYYYYYYYyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!! (not sure if the price figure is gauche to post). Well, that much less my kids will eventually inherit, I guess.

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No issues with rain at all. I have even taken it through hi pressure car washes.....GASP!!! I now have the GT2 replica wing on and really no way to get water in it. I have never heard of a car with hydrolock issues during snow so I would not worry about it. I imagine you could buy a sock for the filter though you could slip on, they make them for some filters to prevent hydrolock. I say just watch the big puddles but the engine is in the back so less worries. OP: Glad you are happy with the Fabspeed stuff. Granted, it is expensive but they make good stuff. I never felt any difference with any mod I did, but than again...my MAF needed replacement. After a simple MAF replacement, that was the biggest routine maintenance performance I have ever got from the 996.

Finally had a chance to make a short drive-by sound clip. Was out in new industrial tract, dead-end road, no one else around. . Before and after pic of tips, and cold air intake, too: . Fabspeed Drive by clip2 - YouTube

I think you'll be very happy. I just have the sportcat/X-pipe and comp intake ... would buy the rest if I could afford it. Fabspeed makes good components and they're good guys to deal with in my experience.

Looks and sounds great Mike! Enjoy!

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Thanks, Ben! Let us know when you get that excellent 997 TT of yours upgraded with a performance exhaust. Did you choose which system yet?

I'll buy the old tips if you have them for sale - PM me if you are interested....mine have the annoying rattle from the welds breaking.

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PM sent.

No Dyno? Looks really good.

I still plan to do the dyno... been super busy. There's a dyno shop about a mile from me, but when I went in there, he could only dyno engines, no chassis dyno. Anther local guy was on a list Fabspeed sent me, but the guy will never return calls. I know a great place about 40 miles from here... now I just need to time to get it scheduled.