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YOUR RESEARCH2001 3.4L Engine Removal Question
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I actually bought my car a year ago and it ran for about 2 months before it blew up, cracked heads...
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Thwt what I use but the back of the car has to be nice and high.
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How do you get back on the road without getting into 5 figure swap and repair bills?
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There is even a sucessful repair documented on the forum.
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They probably decided to beta test the M96 in the Boxter before releasing the 996.
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What is the best way to actually lower the engine out of the car, I have found instructions that mention some sort of retainer plate and a floor jack but that sounds wrong to me.
Anybody know the best way to lower the engine out of the car?
Thanks!
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You can substitute the transmission jack with a small hydraulic jack and a ratcheting strap. Thwt what I use but the back of the car has to be nice and high. I used pair of 3T axle stands and 3 concrete patio stone under each stand to get the proper height. This worked really well last summer. The ATV jack will need at least two slabs at the top and maybe a rubber floor mat to keep the concrete slabs and the engine sump pan a little isolated. Then when lowering you will have to do it in two stages to remove the patio labs from the ATB jack. It's not complicated even though it might spunds like it is.
I actually bought my car a year ago and it ran for about 2 months before it blew up, cracked heads... Never rebuilt a Porsche in my garage before but I am really impressed at the engineering so far, really cool
SP, are you really going to challenge my statement when you know its true? You really want me to reference the well documented "cracked head" syndrom? Sources are so plentiful that its laughable for you to even ask.
This posted by you, doesnt exactly help your case about the 3.4L.
I know your just being yourself but most on here know all about the 3.4L cracked head problems. There is even a sucessful repair documented on the forum. Since you insist, this is from a very well respected member:
Not from Jake Raby but he has also documented the same. SP one day you will learn, I dont just make #$%^ up and Im not a total n00b mehanic.
Still not convinced? From Jake:
4 out of 5 had cracked heads??? Your right, not common at all.
My losing my engine has nothing to do with what you are posting. That is the main reason why I have not gone public with its demise.....you would be on it like white on rice. I track my car and drive it to my fullest. I caused the issue...not the motor.
I'm not falling further into your game than I already have. Bugger off.
Dont get sensitive on me. We were talking cracked heads. Seriously sorry to hear about your engines demise but I and many others would have appreciated the details to learn from it. I was just messing with you about the "cracked heads" because I know you knew better and was trying to make the OP feel better.
I say dont sugar coat anything about the M96 and we can get on with preventing and/or fixing the problems. After all we are all stuck with the design unless we do a swap. Once again, sorry about yours. I know they aint cheap to fix. No offense intended, I was just messing with you.
This may be geting OT but;
Alp, Im just referring to the M96 engine, not the whole car. The 996 is a fine series. Look at the TT, GT2, and GT3. All great cars because of the different engine. You cant possibly believe the M96 engine is anything but a total disaster. Too many design flaws in the attempt to cut cost. All 996's should have come with the Metzger in NA or TT form. You can thank Toyota for this not being the case.
assuming all that (which is inline with what I have heard) what is the best option for someone who owns one of these time-bombs? How do you get back on the road without getting into 5 figure swap and repair bills? Different engine?
I would read Jake Raby's articles and book in which he explains the most common modes of failure, then eliminate each one as you can. Also follow his advice about oil type used and frequency of oil changes. Thats a start. If moneys not a concern, use one of his engines.
Porsche had little choice in the M96 engine. If they didn't go with it, there probably wouldn't be a Porsche today. You really think they spent a mountain of money developing the M96 just because?
Imre, you really think there is that much difference in the manufacturing costs of the NA Metzger vs. M96? Especially considering development. Wonder what the real cost difference between the two is? Would have been sweet if every NA 996 had one. Even a detuned one.
I absolutely think there was a ton of money to be saved with the use of the M96 otherwise they wouldn't have done it. Its all amout the profit, Toyota just showed them how to really efficient. Originaly Porsche was going to use a V6 in the Boxter (they ended up selling the development to Ford and Ford re named it the Duratec V6). They probably decided to beta test the M96 in the Boxter before releasing the 996. Anyhow, its always about the money and more so when they planned to make 160K of them.
So instead of bitchin all the time, man up and trade your car in for one with a Metzger engine in it. Going by your feeling/opinion, it certainly appears anything you do is really just a band aid, a very big one at that.
Enjoy it,live with it, and shut up, or move on...
AFAIK, you've never had anything go wrong with your car. It's usually the real victims that has the right and justification to start posts about how they had to repair this or how this broke. That is what bitchin or venting is about. For you, it's more like complaining and crying over something that's never even materialized for you...
True but if you are a gearhead, fery few things warrant a preventative replacememt. A car will tell you ahead of time if something going on. The key is to hear it.
Thanks for the help guys, I am one step closer, the engine is on the floor! You can actually see me looking at one of the sites you pointed me to in the picture
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