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YOUR RESEARCHHave you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

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Use rear jack point

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I use the rear jack point to get the front in the air and then jack the back by the subframe rear suspension mount point.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?
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Check suspension

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At the annual inspection here they drive the car up on a four pillar lift and then use a built in jacking device to lift each axle to be able to check the suspension with free rolling wheels.

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Use rear-side jack point

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I use the rear-side jack point to lift with a floor jack, then slip jack stands under the front-side jack point and the main rear suspension cross member.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Check suspension

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At the annual inspection here they drive the car up on a four pillar lift and then use a built in jacking device to lift each axle to be able to check the suspension with free rolling wheels.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Recommend jacking points

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At a Porsche center they use a lift that uses the recommended jacking points!

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Test of the engine mounts

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Using the engine to lift the car is a great method of destructive testing of the engine mounts.

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Check suspension

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At the annual inspection here they drive the car up on a four pillar lift and then use a built in jacking device to lift each axle to be able to check the suspension with free rolling wheels.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Recommend jacking points

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At a Porsche center they use a lift that uses the recommended jacking points!

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Test of the engine mounts

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Using the engine to lift the car is a great method of destructive testing of the engine mounts.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Use built in jacking device

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At the annual inspection here they drive the car up on a four pillar lift and then use a built in jacking device to lift each axle to be able to check the suspension with free rolling wheels.

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Use cross member rather than the engine casting

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By using two hyd jacks to lift mine it is possible to use the cross member rather than the engine casting.

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Use devicee

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I also use the devicee to lift my other cars when needed!

Have you tried this method to put your car on 4 jackstands?

Use end points of the cross member

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Every year when I go for the mandatory annual inspection of my Porsche 996, they actually lift the car, to be able to rotate the wheels, using the end points of the cross member under the engine!

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Use engine

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Using the engine to lift the car is a great method of destructive testing of the engine mounts.

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Use floor jack -- the car was not drivable

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The only time I can recall I've seen a floor jack used to lift a car at the dealer I use is when I had my totaled Cayman S there and the tech used the floor jack -- the car was not drivable -- to lift the car up so the exotic car adjuster could see -- from a safe point from the side of the car -- the extent of the damage some items under the car.

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Use jack

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Then I simply use the jack with the adapter:

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

This is basically a cross-post from the GT3 board, but there is more traffic here, so I thought I's ask here also. This is how I've successfully lifted the 993. https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...p-a-993-a.html Any feedback on doing this with 996 chassis? Haven't yet tried same on the GT3 'cause I'm not sure the front trunk well will support the lifting stress. I would think it shouldn't be an issue since it is a C4 Chassis. Have any of you lifted your 996 using the method we use on the 993s????? Craig

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http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...on-jackstands/ This a believe is pretty popular method around here. P.S: Why is every hockey puck made in Slovakia?!?!

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so no one here has tried this? Craig

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I use the rear jack point to get the front in the air and then jack the back by the subframe rear suspension mount point. I would not recommend lifting the rear by the engine block casting, you're putting load on both the engine mount and the casting, presumably neither which are designed to do that.

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I often wondered about this as well. By using two hyd jacks to lift mine it is possible to use the cross member rather than the engine casting.

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Yep - there are stories here about hydraulic engine mounts bursting when the cars are jacked by the engine. If on the other hand you have solid or semi-solid mounts (as I do) then there is no risk of blowing the mounts. This was how I used to jack my 1978 911 all the time. You do have to be super careful though about where on the engine case you choose to jack... and for GOD'S sake don't jack it on the oil sump plate. Fact is, there's a suspension cross member that travels under the engine (actually where the engine and trans meet). That's the safe and convenient way to jack up the rear of a 996, so this whole discussion is kind of moot.

POST 8Original post

When my car goes up on jack stands, I use that point to get the rear up in the air. I wouldn't feel comfortable supporting the car like that for more than a couple minutes, though.

POST 9Original post

I use the rear-side jack point to lift with a floor jack, then slip jack stands under the front-side jack point and the main rear suspension cross member. Lower onto jackstands and repeat the other side... Two lifts and the car is well supported on stable hard points, never lifting from the engine and without needing a super long/low profile jack. If I'm working under the car, I'll usually slide some additional safety jack stands under the rear jack points. Not weight bearing, only for additional safety. Not my picture, but this image shows the rear crossmember stand placement.

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That's worth a try next time. This time around I wanted the jack stands at the jack point but I put the jackstands under the cross member often enough.

POST 11Original post

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This is how I always do it. Using the engine to lift the car is a great method of destructive testing of the engine mounts. I know this from experience.

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That can't be right. Those two jack stands look like they are behind the rear wheels, where the two black low profile rams are.

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I have found a perfect solution to the problem of lifting my Porsche in a safe way! I bought one of these adapters that is on the picture below. You mount it on top off your normal garage jack so you get two lifting points (!) on your jack. I don't know what it is called in english (I bought it in Sweden), sorry! The adapter adds a little hight to the jack so I have to first jack up my car on each side normally a little bit (using the rear jacking points) and put some pieces of wood under the tires (about 4 - 5"). Then I simply use the jack with the adapter: In the front I lift right where the suspension is bolted to the body on each side, and then put jack stands under the Porsche front jacking points. In the rear I position the adapter on each side of the crossmember under the engine, lift it, and then put jack stands under the Porsche rear jacking points. This way you can jack up your car to ANY hight without having the car swinging around while you are jacking it up! It is fast and it is safe!! It is also a very cheap solution (I paid about 200 USD for jack and the adapter)! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! PS. I also use the devicee to lift my other cars when needed! Robert

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While the location you are using to lift the car may be convenient it is not a proper location to lift the car, not one recognized or sanctioned by the factory, at least not in any of the official service references I have access to. So your last sentence above should read: "That's the wrong way to jack up the rear of a 996 so this whole discussion is kind of wrong."

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Every year when I go for the mandatory annual inspection of my Porsche 996, they actually lift the car, to be able to rotate the wheels, using the end points of the cross member under the engine! I discussed it with them and they said that it is the strongest point to use since that is where the wheels are attached to the rest of the car! Of course this is not in the offical service documents from Porsche. At a Porsche center they use a lift that uses the recommended jacking points! But that doesn't mean that you are going to ruin the car just because you lift it in the cross member... Robert

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I've had my cars in for many a service or pre-trip roadworthiness inspection and the techs never lift the cars by any other points other than the lift points. The only time I can recall I've seen a floor jack used to lift a car at the dealer I use is when I had my totaled Cayman S there and the tech used the floor jack -- the car was not drivable -- to lift the car up so the exotic car adjuster could see -- from a safe point from the side of the car -- the extent of the damage some items under the car.

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So Macster, if the factory designated jackpoints are the only points one could use to lift the car, then for those who want to work on their car but lack a hydraulic lift in their garage, the only solution is to take it to a shop where said lift is available?

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wait... there's a sanctioning body for jacking up 911s?

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At the annual inspection here they drive the car up on a four pillar lift and then use a built in jacking device to lift each axle to be able to check the suspension with free rolling wheels. When lifting the rear axle they lift it in the cross member under the car. The reason for using this kind of lift is probably due to efficience reasons to be able to get the cars in and out quickly. Personally I cannot see any risk with lifting the car in the cross member. The entire car is resting on the wheels that are attached to the cross member! Robert

POST 20Original post

Screw it. I'll just put in some 996 cup car air jacks so I don't have to worry about my lift points...

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Here's a visual comparison.

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Hmm... Wasn't there something about only jacking a car on flat (horizontal) surface? Maybe it's the camera angle but I notice quite a grade on this pic. Plus, the engine is at the "bottom" end.

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