Double DIN NAV options/photos

Time to upgrade and there are lots of threads on different options. I thought it might be helpful if people posted pictures and reviews in a single place. So... Show me your Double DINs!

Older Pioneer AvicZ - Bluetooth, XM Satellite and iPod, installed back in 08.

remember that double din will require for you to eliminate the optic system if you haev it in your car most people doing the stereo upgrade have pre-2002 cars which uses the simple (regular cable) connection from the head unit and the amps. later car have an optic system and require for you to replace the amplifier as well.

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I think there are kits that will work with existing amp and speakers, the price is around 600$ from what I remember.

There are lots of good options out there. I ended up replacing my head unit, amps and speakers just over one year ago. I chose a Kenwood unit, and I had a custom iPhone dock built for it directly under the screen. I've been pleased with it.

^^^ That ipod dock is awesome ^^^ Great idea

Did either of you require a custom frame/housing to move the HVAC control unit to the bottom space?

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Factory part.

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More info and/or link, please. FLi

I have an 03 with the Bose system. What have some you done with post 02 cars? 600 bucks to install a 400 dollar head unit seems excessive to me, but I would really like Iphone/pad connection. Matt

Pioneer AVIC-930bt. Love it. Ordered a new bezel with a "Porsche" insignia from Euro Motorspeed. Changing it out this weekend.

This is mine. Done with a Euro Motorspeed kit from Ebay. It is JVC KW-AVX840. I keep an iPod in the car so I ran ran the line for it to the center console so that it is hidden. I did the installation myself, but did not enjoy the process. The Euro Motorspeed guy was very helpful, but there was only so much help you can get in a phone call. I must have the only 03+ delivered with the standard audio system with no separate amp. I am using the amp in the JVC. I am reasonably happy with that part and the sound is pretty good through aftermarket speakers. What I dislike is that the telephone is so bad that it is useless and that the control system of the JVC is very slow. I would not buy it again. Lots of info at http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...trieullionaire , although some of it is dated.

All of these units seem covered with logos like "Pioneer", "JVC", "DVD", "Divx" "Bluetooth", etc. All of this ugliness is one of the main reasons I'm keeping my stock unit. Is any of this advertisement removable on any of these units?

This thread is providing lots of good info. I had not seen the Euro Motorsports' eBay store.

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I almost didn't buy the Kenwood DNX-6960 for that reason. I seriously considered the DNX-9980, which doesn't have all the logos. It was a motorized face with button controls for volume instead of a ****, so I ended up sticking with the 6960. The logos look obnoxious in these photos, but in person they are hardly noticable. It's not as big a deal as it seems.

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Your bluetooth microphone is in a bad spot. You might try moving it overhead. Clip it between the interior windshield and the cross header. That is where mine is and it works great.

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That is just where it ended up when I gave up. I tried a number of locations. It is bad everywhere.

I see alot of cigar lighters (or missing ones) in the pics. When I did the ashtray delete I replaced my cigar lighter with this USB Charger from Rocketfish (Only $14.99 at Best Buy). I think it is much nicer looking (almost flush to the dash) than the lighter and great for charging an iPhone or any other device that is charged by a USB connection. IMO it also updates the look of the dash.

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You can change the logo on probably almost all of them. Just google <Stereo model> Logo hack Kenwood DNX-9960 (bluetooth, nav, dvd, cd, sirius or xm, etc)

Most of the bluetooth, RDS, iPod logo's on and around these units are screen printed on at the factory and come off fairly easily with a little acetone and a cloth if you are quick... Leaving no trace. Cleans up the look nicely.

Good idea

Sony XNV 770-BT Bought remanufacutured unit for $550 works great, Phone mic hidden in factory slot left of alt gauge - perfect Tom Tom removeable Navigation module up under passenger footwell for easy remova and map updates Beautiful and very funtional with DVD hack 911 Double din kit from Sonic Electronics on ebay $95 Sonic Electronix [email removed]

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I am thinking of getting a jvc HU, the av70bt (which is the updated version of yours) or the av60bt. I read somewhere that your HU is an "oversized double din" unit, did you have any trouble fitting it with the euro motorsport double din kit? Also is there anyway to change the colors of the blue dots on the bottom of the HU?

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can you take a pic of how that looks?

Hell a bit of black tape strategically placed would do the logo delete at a pinch. Well you know me for cheapo hehe.

Hi, I installed the Pioneer AVH-440bt and while i was there i intalled a revese camera, which i have to say has been most useful!

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I wasn't aware that it was oversized. I had to elongate predrilled holes in the mounting bracket sides and shim the front part of the bracket to make it fit reasonably flush. It is not in the dash all that securely, but seems adequate. You can change the color of the buttons on the screen, but I do not think that you can change the blue dots. I will try a color change and see whether it changes the dots and post results.

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hmmm that doesnt sound easy, im gonna attempt to do it myself, and ive never done it before. it might be too much for me. i think ill go with the pioneer avh8400bh. thanks!

I have the AVH4450 as well. How did you get the Porsche pic as the background? Also, anyone used the USB to run a hard drive off it? I tried but it didnt work...

Choose a pic and stick it on a USB stick. Use the USB extension cable and insert it the USB stick. Now click on the picture of the hot air balon on the right hand side and select USB! Find your pick and select store. Now Select home and then theme click on background and chose your pic. I think it can only handle upto 32gb that's why your hdd didn't work

Ah ok, that would possibly explain it, the HDD was a few hundred. Ill try a stick.

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The blue dots don't change. I am not a fan of the JVC I bought. If I were doing it again, I would buy something else. That said, I don't think that the JVC presented any particular installation challenge. You have to be prepared to play with any installation with these install kits. The changes I described were not a big deal. The harder part for me was figuring out how to remove the horizontal divider between the OEM radio and the climate control unit. The answer for me was a grinder bit on a dremel tool to remove rivets. Be prepared to do a bit of creative thinking.

Mine When it starts up

When it starts up How did you manage to get the Porsche logo on the startup page? I just installed the Kenwood DNX 6960 and I could only get the logo to be the background wallpaper for the main menu. It still says Kenwood and Garmin on the startup. Any help would be appreciated.

I think this is what I did. It's been awhile. � First connect the USB Thumbdrive containing image file. � To enter setup Mode, press SRC+EJECT, then RESET. � Press and hold FNC & EJECT keys, then press RESET Key. � Release reset key, and hold FNC & EJECT Key until illumination activates. � If you want to change the opening image to your own image (i.e., company logo), Press OEM Image. � If you want to put original KENWOOD opening back,press KENWOOD image. � Select the image you want to use. � When the image is loaded, select Enter

thanks Jumper. I'll try it when I get home. One more question, do you know what size the file needs to be? I've tried reasonably hi-res files, and they still look pretty bad thanks again for the info. Really appreciate it.

I think I used a 1920x1080 jpg. It may get resized when it is uploaded but as long as the file is the correct width and height it won't get distorted.

Thank you so much for the info! Can't wait to try it out!

Great thread. I especially like the photos of different installation options and in particular the extras. Love that one with the custom Iphone holder. Very cool!

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Here you go.

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very nice and clean set up.

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thanks a lot. i really don't wanna pay money to get it installed, and i cant find any shops in so cal that i trust to do a good job.

rednerrus, PM me with your email address, and I can send you some pdf files of the install process that I used. I would also highly recommend buying the kit from eurosports on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-01-PORSCH...ht_2177wt_1126 Helped tremendously. I installed mine, and while its a bit overwhelming at first, its totally doable if you take your time with it

Pioneer AVH-P2400BT in EuroMotorSpeed fit kit:

Thinking of installing a Nav/Audio/Etc in-dash system and am leaning towards the Pioneer Avic Z140BT (vs. the Kenwood DNX 9190HD). Has your experience with your Pioneer been good experience?

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I have the avh-4400bt and have no complaints what so ever!

AVIC 930bt. Works, looks, and sounds great. Nav is better than my wife's 2011 Mercedes.

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Thanks jackarelli . Appreciate your insight.

Thanks Gonzo911 . Appreciate you sharing your insight with me.

Can anyone comment on the glare with these units mounted in the upper console? I'm considering two units. One is fixed position and the other has multiple tilt angles (including reverse to minimize glare). Will a fixed position screen be okay, or should I expect enough glare that I'd want the tilt option? Thanks, Shawn

No glare here, and my top is down 95% of the time.

Avic930BT by Pioneer on the way. I used a EuroMotorSpeed kit to relocate the HCU and a new cubby. All looks a treat!

Gee, that looks familiar...

Since the Pioneer AVH-P2400BT Touchscreen Car DVD Player will fit will the Amazon Amazon or the http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-P3.../ref=pd_cp_e_1 also fit? Which one do you guys think is the better choice? Also is the installation pretty straight forward? I will be using the Euro Motorspeed 2002 PORSCHE 996 CARRERA 2 DIN INSTALLATION KIT found here. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PORSCHE...item4ab03a30d9 Thanks John

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I chose the 4400BH. Very good unit, and you won't regret the bigger screen. The main difference is the screen size between these 2 units. I also got the Ebay kit as linked, the seller was a great help also with install. If you have a 2002+ you will need to bypass the amp.

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heres mine, its the 8400bh the face is detachable.

I went with this Pioneer Avic 930 I think like everyone else. Main things I liked about it was the Ipod Menu, Able to load a Porsche Logo for its loading image, has a dial for volume, because it looks a little more factoryish and I like a dial for adjusting my volume, lastly I like the fact I can customize the backlighting color to be the same as the OEM Porsche backlighting. I was trying to have it look as OEMish as possible since I hate the aftermarket look. I almost retrofitted OEM Porsche nav, except for the fact it sucks. I am really hoping Dynavin comes out with something for the Porsche 996, it has a completely OEM look, has an android based operating system, syncs well with smart phones, internet connectivity, and what I like most is the google maps based nav system where as you approach a corner you can program it to show you the google streetview or that corner. Dynavin for E46 BMW This is a pic of my current setup. Bluetooth mic in an unused button to the left of the head unit

Car Toys did mine. Shown here with the Escort Detector panels

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Does the instructions tell you how to bypass the amp? I have a 2002 with the amp (Bose system). Is the video pretty accurate. Looks pretty straight forward. I guess if I can change the oil, do the garage remote install and install a ipod cable in place of the cd changer. I can install this radio. Thanks John

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I went to Car toys. They want 160 for the install. Looks simple, plus I li8ke getting in there and doing things. My wife and I changed out the ignition switch. Being 6'4 and 240 at the time I could not get my hands in there. She crawled in there and finished it for me.

nice. I just didn't feel like dealing with it and I had some bucks dedicated. They did the sub, the amp, HD radio, traffic and dynamat (which was a waste of money.. didn't quiet anything down, just made the car heavier). At least i have enough watts now to enjoy the music over the tire noise.

Great info

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I had Car Toys install my Kenwood DNN991HD. I also had them route an extra USB plug and the lead for the emergency brake out of the console so it can be grounded so the unit is fully functional while moving. I am very happy with this unit!

Dennis - where did you get your screensaver on the Pioneer? I have the exact same unit....

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Here's the link where I DL the images. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...av-system.html

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Thank you Dennis....

So, I've been sitting on the fence about updating my head unit. I have CDR 220 Bose system. So far, I've seen a lot of aftermarket double and single DIN options. What I'm wondering is if there are any factory options from higher MY P-cars that are also an option - plug and play of course. The goal is AUX and Bluetooth but not NAV. I've also seen some aftermarket add-ons that give you those and most likely will be cheaper.

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All you have to do is install the Yatour solution for Bluetooth and aux input. I will be doing the full mod within a week, will post pictures and a procedure. Anybody could do it in an hour or two. About $150 and you keep your stock head unit.

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Looks like a neat product. I googled it and found some info, but a lot is still unclear. Like what one sees on the screen (it works with Porsche double DIN head units?). Whether one can use the smart phone's nav system. And indeed, whether it works with Android phones. Looking forward to pics, etc.!

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I checked Dynavin's site. Perhaps their universal units would work. Aesthetically, they blow everything else out of the water. But they seem to lack a feature I'm looking for - the ability to play WAV or FLAC files. Also unclear to what extent they are compatible with Android phones.

Pioneer units seem to sell at a huge premium to Kenwood and Sony. Does something justify this?

While reading about head units and such in this forum, this appeared at the top of my screen http://loudlink.eu/webshop/porsche-b...FUWWtAodTjMA0g Or rather an advertisement for it. It's a "CD Changer replacement [with] Bluetooth ... and losslenss FLAC player in one" from Loudlink. So my best guess is this attaches to the OEM head unit, which is nice, from an aesthetic point of view. But does it improve the sound or the navigation? Probably not - though all is just a guess, as the website isn't very helpful ... . Anyone know anything about this?

Several people mentioned preferring a dial for volume control over buttons. I generally do too, mainly because with buttons it always seems either too quiet or too loud - the steps in volume are too large. That being said, I have a receiver at home with a dial, but the volume adjusts up & down in (large) steps. And I now have a car with buttons with small enough steps (with the added bonus that it shows the volume setting as a number, so you have some reference. ("Look, honey, I did turn it down. It's on 9. Nine is fine, remember?" ;-) ) Anyway, I'm curious about the head units people have mentioned above (mainly Kenwoods & Pioneers). Do the ones with buttons allow small enough steps? And those with dials?

I have two cars with single din aftermarket decks. One is alpine the other is kenwood. Both within the last year so recent units. Both have large dials for volume that also get used for other functions. I prefer a big dial for volume myself.

Kenwood dnx6990,yes you will need to change the amplifier(bose/most system),but no big deal,volume **** is old school and much better than buttons IMO, this unit does it all,rear view camera,nav,bluetooth etc,coupled with a KUDA iphone mount,in matching graphite grey leather,or what ever color you desire,they match the porsche colors if you like.

This is how I got the car: still have to do something about the empty space above the radio

Cupholder

the original cupholder is a few mm's too high unfortunately, think I'll have to cnc a piece of plastic and carbon wrap it or something.

I have a 2003 C4s with Bose. I added Bluetooth using the Dension and a marine bluetooth adapter I bought on Amazon. I replaced the cassette holder with a second tray and use a Scoche Magic mount to hold my iPhone right below the radio. Looks totally stock and works like a charm. Happy to send additional details when I am back at my computer if needed.

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The pannel surrounding the Kenwood unit looks just right - good fit, right color. Is it a Kenwood product? Or ... ?

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Do both have continuous volume adjustment? Or does the volume go up & down in discrete jumps?

I have a Kenwood 690HD. I went for that version (over the one with the larger screen) since I really wanted the volume ***. The *** isn't completely continuous but the increments are very small. Getting to the desired level has never been a problem at all and I'm very happy with my choice. The *** also allows you to turn the volume down (or up) very quickly.

I learned something interesting from a Kenwood dealer. Apparently, it is hard to install the 7" screen units well (the units with the largest screens and no visble CD opening). When the screens open up, they require more space than the standard size, which makes it harder for them to get/stay properly aligned.

I reviewed this whole thread and noticed that none of you mentioned the cost of these double din units including installation . I recently did an interior refresh including reupholstering the front seats. I am tired of those disposable Bluetooth units from Motorola. I went to a very reputable auto stereo specialist that contributes regularly on this site and they quoted me for parts and labor somewhere around $3000 . That is a little out of my price range . I looked on ebay and the price for these various double din units is somewhere $500. Does that mean that the labor and installation is $2500 I am not very good with doing my own work so is it possible to do this for less than $1000

That must include speakers and amps too.