fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

Is it possible to prime our engines?

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
11 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCHIs it possible to prime our engines?

Leading reported evidence

Install 20 years

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

It's been installed for 20 years.

Is it possible to prime our engines?
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Install 20 years' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Install 20 years' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 11 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 2 other evidence results

Lubricate engine prior

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

On engine start-up, when the valve on the oil side is opened, the pressurised oil is released into the engine and thus pre-lubricates the engine prior to start-up, limiting wear often caused in this scenario."

Is it possible to prime our engines?

Use electric priming pump

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I still use an electric priming pump on my '73 911.

Is it possible to prime our engines?
Frequently discussed actions (3)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Install 20 years

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

It's been installed for 20 years.

Is it possible to prime our engines?

Lubricate engine prior

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

On engine start-up, when the valve on the oil side is opened, the pressurised oil is released into the engine and thus pre-lubricates the engine prior to start-up, limiting wear often caused in this scenario."

Is it possible to prime our engines?

Use electric priming pump

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I still use an electric priming pump on my '73 911.

Is it possible to prime our engines?
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

11 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261026T194705Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is it possible to make a setup that will prime our engines with oil before we start the car? If the most wear and tear or friction occurs upon start up I am surprised manufactures have not developed a solution for all engines. On the flip side I suppose manufactures want to see engines blow up after the warranty has expired. Has anyone done this to a M96 or any engine for that matter. Im hoping this brings out the engineers.

POST 2Original post

A dry sump with an electric oil pump. Almost no "standard" production cars have this setup. It adds production cost to the car. Most manufacturers want you to toss your car after two to five years and buy a new one. They have almost no interest in building a car that will last more than 10 years. In addition, most of the buying public has no idea what a dry sump is and they wouldn't want to make the additional $50 a month payment to have one included. I don't think there is enough room in the 996 engine compartment to add the hardware. I guess you could place it in the back seat area. I don't know how adaptable the M96 would be. I am sure it could be done.

POST 3Original post

Accusump is what some racers use. You could certainly use it on a street car.

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 15656927

The accusump is pressurized by the engines oil pump. I assume it would bleed down once the engine is no longer rotating.

POST 5Original post

You would assume incorrectly. "At the time when the engine is switched off, the Accucumps valve is closed (or closes if using electric valve) and any oil pressure within the Accusump is held there. On engine start-up, when the valve on the oil side is opened, the pressurised oil is released into the engine and thus pre-lubricates the engine prior to start-up, limiting wear often caused in this scenario." https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p...-they-work-281 Kit here: https://lnengineering.com/products/m...ersal-kit.html

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I found some interesting ideas on the web. I might persue this at some point. Right now I am just scratching the surface. This could be a very productive thread for those interested. Here is one link so far: http://www.masterlube.net/home.htm

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I also located this one. The price is very attractive if it works. http://www.engineprelube.com/faq.html

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 15656941

Looks like a slick setup. Reading the details though, you have to install a manual or electric valve that can be closed to seal the oil in the actuator prior to shutting down the engine. The valve has to be reopened just before startup (less than 15 seconds or so). It looks like the electric valve option that is wired to the ignition switch would be the way to go.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 15656975

The LN/Bilt version includes the electric switch. " The Electric Pressure Control Valve we use is for a discharge/refill of 35-40 PSI. These valves have the convenience of an electric valve for remote mounted units on daily drivers but with the rapid refill rate of a manual valve as required in racing. The E.P.C. valving will only allow the Accusump to discharge oil when the engine’s oil pressure drops below a predetermined level and only refill when the pressure rises above that level. The Bilt Racing HPDE Accusump kit is easy to install, requiring plumbing of only a single oil line. Our universal Accusump kit has everything you need to carry out a custom Accusump installation in your Boxster, Cayman, or 911, sans wiring or electrical pieces and includes:" You can probably find a million other ways to do it, but this is proven and readily available. Just add money. A lot cheaper than a blown engine.

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 15656805

They haven't developed it because there isn't really a problem. Manufacturers don't want to see engines blow up after the warranty either. That's bad press even though the warranty expired. But just like anything with moving parts, sooner of later they all break. I don't think cold start oil starvation is a problem for these engines. Accusumps are good to have for race conditions where the pick up tube can get exposed.

POST 11Original post

I still use an electric priming pump on my '73 911. It's been installed for 20 years. It's designed and marketed for heavy trucks. Internally the design consists of two brass gears, similar to most auto oil pumps. It's a little noisey but it gets you to 20 psi right away and it's cool to see that on the gauge before starting. It's bolted to the back of the rear seats, in the engine compartment. It pulls from the engine sump plate and pressurizes a fitting on the engine mounted thermostat. There is a one-way flap valve in the circuit so the engine oil pump doesn't drive the electric pump backwards. Funny the flap valve was made by Lear aircraft. Got during a hangar clean-out.

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.