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I checked the nuts when I first encountered this and that's what lead me to replace the drop links (they are cheap and I figured, start with the cheap stuff).

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Sounds like those were already replaced ("drop links")

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Replace drop links up front

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Last year I replaced the drop links up front and that seemed to help a bit, but the noise is back even louder now.

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Tighten nut

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I tightened the nut that holds the shock in the mount and it went away.

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It's probably a good idea to check all the top nuts for proper torque - I certainly wouldn't rule it out without checking.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I checked the nuts when I first encountered this and that's what lead me to replace the drop links (they are cheap and I figured, start with the cheap stuff).

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Check top nuts

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It's probably a good idea to check all the top nuts for proper torque - I certainly wouldn't rule it out without checking.

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Sounds like those were already replaced ("drop links")

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Replace drop links (they are cheap and i figured, start

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I checked the nuts when I first encountered this and that's what lead me to replace the drop links (they are cheap and I figured, start with the cheap stuff).

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Replace drop links up front

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Last year I replaced the drop links up front and that seemed to help a bit, but the noise is back even louder now.

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Tighten nut

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I tightened the nut that holds the shock in the mount and it went away.

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Use )

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Stock top-mount will be fine for your purposes (road use).

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It's probably a good idea to check all the top nuts for proper torque - I certainly wouldn't rule it out without checking.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm hoping that someone might be able to shed some light on an issue I'm seeing with the front end of my 03 C4S. After driving the car for a while, I hear a metal "clunking" sound that I'm fairly certain is coming from the left front of the car. Yesterday I tested this theory by driving over the road lane divider bumps and could clearly hear the clunking/rattling coming from that area. When the car is lifted, I can't seem to hear/see anything loose so I'm thinking it's something that requires the suspension to be under load to duplicate. Last year I replaced the drop links up front and that seemed to help a bit, but the noise is back even louder now. From all my research I'm suspecting the upper strut mount bearings or the mounts themselves, but I can't seem to be able to tell for sure. Another thing that seems to be happening is that when I encounter any ruts on the highway the car pulls into them which caught me off guard this morning. Has anyone experienced similar symptoms with their car? If I have to replace the upper strut bearings or mounts I was thinking about switching to a monoball setup instead of the stock units. I don't track the car so I'm not looking to do a race setup, so I'm wondering if anyone has installed the "cartridge" monoball upper strut system (see pic)? If so, how are they installed and are they worth it? Any help would be much appreciated. I don't want to just start replacing things (aka throwing money at the problem) if I don't have to. Thanks in advance for the help!

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It sounds like your top-mounts may be shot. Stock top-mount will be fine for your purposes (road use). Mono ***** will work and technically create less deflection under load, but can tend to be a little noisy/clunky themselves. This is just inherent due to their design (no rubber to cushion bumps) and doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them. This is not the case with the stock mount as the bushing is surrounded by rubber in the mount. It's this rubber that cracks/tears, so the top of the strut or shock is essentially floating freely inside the mount - this is the clunk you hear when hitting a bump. Also, you probably won't be able to see this without pulling the strut/shock out...

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Quotes source post: 14987226

Thanks for the info. Have you heard of any brands of top-mounts to avoid?

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I've had that when the upper mount is loose. I tightened the nut that holds the shock in the mount and it went away. When the car is on a lift, the weight of the unsprung parts masks this because it puts weight against the mount.

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Quotes source post: 14987321

Yes, that will make the same or similar sound. It's probably a good idea to check all the top nuts for proper torque - I certainly wouldn't rule it out without checking. If they are loose, I'd also go through the rest of the suspension as well. This being said, torn/cracked top-mounts are fairly common - especially on a 18 yr old car (assuming they are original - rubber wears out...). Mine were both torn and cracked - the right side was totally disconnected and floating in the mount. I replaced them with Tarrett adjustable camber plates, as they were the same price as the stock mounts (C4)...

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You might also consider the diagonal "tuning fork" control arms. They can make some wicked clunks over bumps, and they can get worse when things are warmed up and all the rubber and plastic bits get a little softer and more flexible: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-arms-wow.html

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Check out your swaybar end links too. When bad they will produce a surprising large clunk/rattle for their size.

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Quotes source post: 14987658

Sounds like those were already replaced ("drop links")

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Quotes source post: 14987583

Did you notice an increase in front end noise with the adjustable camber plates?

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I checked the nuts when I first encountered this and that's what lead me to replace the drop links (they are cheap and I figured, start with the cheap stuff). The nuts were tight... hah

POST 12Original post

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No, it's actually less than it was with the bad/broken top mounts. That being said, they are little harsher (less compliant - no rubber) and noisier than new/good top mounts. It's all a balancing act between a "race" setup and a street setup. For my tastes it's well within my parameters for comfort - this is not my daily driver and I like the sporty handling.

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