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leak, usually at the cylinders
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Easy fix, unless the low level is due to a leak, usually at the cylinders.
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I just bought a 2003 c4s, low mileage, very clean inside and out.
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Just know that the repair costs for what you know could run $4-$8K as a partial DIY job.
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Usually need to replace both the rotors and the pads.
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Hi everyone, first post, first time considering a Porsche even. I have an opportunity to trade a vehicle of mine for a 2002 Carerra non turbo automatic cabriolet. The car has 136k miles black with the cinnamon interior but its a little bit of a project. I drove it and it ran great but from what I can tell it needs the following, interior paint issues (need respray on a lot of trim) passenger front seat bottom needs recovered. convertible top needs some assistance going back up, rear quarter windows are off the tracks. The front suspension has a clunck, needs front brakes. exterior is in beautiful shape though and it comes with 2 sets of wheels. Jus tlooking for some advice on what the car would be worth in current shape and when i make the repairs needed.
Thanks everyone!
Just a few thoughts off the top of my head...
>interior paint issues (need respray on a lot of trim):
Easy to DIY, but can be expensive aftermarket.
>passenger front seat bottom needs recovered:
Man, that seat looks terrible. What the hell did they do to it? Needs a pro to recover or get new seats $$
>convertible top needs some assistance going back up:
Probably low fluid in the top hydraulic reservoir. Easy fix, unless the low level is due to a leak, usually at the cylinders. Look for hydraulic fluid in the space behind the rear speakers.
>rear quarter windows are off the tracks:
Never seen that before. If you need new regulators for the rear windows, I understand they are expensive and a pain to deal with.
>The front suspension has a clunk:
Could be anything. Maybe very expensive, maybe not
>needs front brakes:
no big deal. Can be expensive if you are not planning to DIY. Usually need to replace both the rotors and the pads.
>exterior is in beautiful shape though and it comes with 2 sets of wheels. Just tlooking for some advice on what the car would be worth in current shape and when i make the repairs needed.
Overall, unless you are getting a great deal, I'd take a pass on this one. If you are seriously considering this, get a PPI to get a clearer estimate of the costs involved with this. Could be thousands and thousands in repairs. If you are a DIY'er, maybe it's worth it?
Automatic cabs are normally at the lower end of the price range.
100K+ drops the value even more.
I'd have to run a Durametric test, and grab a UOA to make sure there's not any engine issues.
If it were me, I'd value it about $10K.
What vehicle would you be trading?
If you're a DIYer, with an extra $4K-8K, then go for it.
Clunk could be several things, control arm, upper
strut mount
, tie rod, etc.
I'd consider replacing the IMS.
Automatic makes this much more difficult of a job.
Brakes are a simple job.
Front regulators are cheap-ish and easy, the rear ones not so much.
$900 per side.
If you're not a DIYer, look for something else!
This would cost a lot to pay someone to fix everything you know about.
You would likely need an $8K-$12 budget just for the stuff you know about.
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I am a slid DIY'er. Car i would be trading is an 07 Maserati Quattroporte that has a rebuilt title and needs a paint job (also I value the maserati around 8-9k as it sits)
If it were me, I would trade the Maserati for the Porsche.
Just know that the repair costs for what you know could run $4-$8K as a partial DIY job.
The Porsche will likely be more reliable than the Maserati.
Maserati's are not known for reliability
They're the BMWs of the Italian car world.
I think my biggest concern would be if the previous didn't take care of the car on the obvious stuff, how did they maintain the important stuff. I think even as a mechanic i would be real cautious of that car. Your gonna be in it for several grand in just parts to fix the obvious. All the above comments are spot on. Do one hell of a PPI by either you or someone who knows these cars or you could be in real trouble even at 10k.
I just bought a 2003 c4s, low mileage, very clean inside and out. There are numerous 996 for sale, most with way lower miles and much better shape than that one, at prices that make that look very high, IMO. I was looking for a 4s but couldn�t believe how many c2 cabriolet are available. Good luck
TexSquirrel...
They're the BMWs of the Italian car world...
.I take OFFENSE at that,,,I've owned probably 25 BMW's over many years, (First was a 73 2002 Tii) they have their problems, BUT not even close to MASERATI junk, and I'v e had fewer and cheaper repairs on my BMW's than the PORSCHES that I have owned...(6 911's, 4 Boxsters, 1 914, 1 356 Cab....)
So there.....
Thanks for the feedback ya'll. I really appreciate it and think I will just try to sell the maserati and use the cash to find a 911 that is in better shape overall. Was just hoping this would work out where i could drive it for the summer and then flip it with some of the repairs having been made by me
Car looks beat to hell, I can't imagine how they treated the regular maintenance items on this one. I would pass. Sell the Maserati for what you can scrape up another 10k and buy a nice 996
You made the right decision. The way the car was treated cosmetically could very well point to the way the car was treated mechanically too. I would move to better examples of the 911. That one in the pictures looks like a money pit in the making!
Gee dak911 how many Maseratis have you owned ? I've owned 3, and presently have 2, a Cambio Corsa and a 2013 Gran Tourisimo Sport. They have been and are wonderful cars. NOTHING sounds like 4.7 V8 in sport mode. I also have had 5 BMWs and have never had a bad one, all were big sixes.
I am not a fan of the Mercs. however, I presently have an 3.2 AMG that I think is a winner. I thought when you first went after the Squirrel for his comments you were going to abide by the golden rule of not putting down someones ride, but you did the same thing he did. I am 81 and if you ever want to have some fun, come across the alley and I'll race you back to Lauderdale.
Current,
08 BMW535
02 Cab4
05 SRT6
04 Cambio Corsa
2013 Gran Tourisimo Sport
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