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YOUR RESEARCHDid Porsche short block program kill RND engines?
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^^Well, it's not "the same failed component"...seeing as they now use the larger IMSB that's had an extremely low failure rate, many people would be comfortable with what Porsche is offering.
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There are no improvements to the cylinders and still use the open deck with lokasil bores that are susceptible to scoring.
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^^Well, it's not "the same failed component"...seeing as they now use the larger IMSB that's had an extremely low failure rate, many people would be comfortable with what Porsche is offering.
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As the title suggests, it looks like RND is no longer building M96.01,02,03,04 - engines. They're blowing out a bunch of Boxter (2.5, 2.7l), and Boxter S (3.2l) engines for $8500 (seems like a good deal). But their site shows no more M96 Carrera (3.4, 3.6) engines... Looks like the engine program is going the way of the RND parts store...
Nope. We're still offering 3.4, 3.6, and 3.8 engines M96 and M97 engines as well as 9A1 engines on exchange. Only the less popular designations are on clearance and won't be offered on exchange after we sell out, but rather, will require that they are sent in and your engine would be rebuilt to RND specs.
The RND engines are considerably different than the factory shortblocks. That being said, the factory shortblock option makes it harder to justify going with the RND option.
If you take the Porsche shortblock and price it out with labor and parts to make it a long block, it will end up being as much or more than the RND Engine.
The fact that the cylinders are the same without any improvement is a big downer for the factory shortblocks.
Ahhhh...Thanks for weighing in Charles. When I got the email about the "clearance" of the boxter engines I went to the site to see if there was a sale on the 3.4's as well - no luck. In fact there were no 3.4's or 3.6's listed at all - this is what led me to believe tjhey weren't being offered any longer. There used to be quite a few available - if you've sold those, I guess business is good
"The factory short block option........."
Why on earth would ANYONE choose the same failed component when a superior replacement that solves all of the well documented problems is offered by a great company made of our kind of people who shed all of the blood, sweat, and tears necessary to engineer a fix to the benefit of all mankind???
Wow.
Thank You, RND, LN, Flat 6, et al.
^^Well, it's not "the same failed component"...seeing as they now use the larger IMSB that's had an extremely low failure rate, many people would be comfortable with what Porsche is offering. In fact, I'm sure there's an argument that many people will be more comfortable simply because it is a "PORSCHE" part... I agree that the 'Nickies" are a nice upgrade, but most people have no idea what they are. Also, these short blocks are supposedly new castings, so that's another shortcoming of some of the original cases that has been addressed. ** I have no skin in the game either way, I'm just trying to point out the misconceptions...
Blocks are indeed new castings (as in not re-manufactured), but Porsche has never re-used the blocks in their reman engines - they have always been new from what I have seen (and I've seen lots of blocks with X, Y, and AT in the part numbers). There are no improvements to the cylinders and still use the open deck with lokasil bores that are susceptible to scoring.
It's damn near criminal to take the heads off an engine and reuse all these used parts on a new shortblock. Wasted labor and a recipe for disaster. The heads always need rebuilding and there are lots of other pieces that need to be changed that aren't included in the shortblock. Just saying.
On top of what Charles stated, Jake just finished the development of the 9a1 engine program for RND. They are blowing out some M96s to make room for 9a1 inventory, and cores.. From what l understand RND has several batches of M96/M97 engines being cycled as well, they are just out of stock on some popular engines while these batches are built, some of which will be sold as short blocks, and others will be sold complete.
Good things still going on there.
Its been nice having RND in the industry for us. They can handle the stock rebuilds and let us focus on performance engines only. Lots of demand now for 9a1 engines, and with them on the scene doing these stock, pretty much all we need to do is the 4.0- 4.2 builds.
They�ve done it right!
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