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Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

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YOUR RESEARCHDo I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

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Repair not cheaply

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Now that I've gotten feedback from all of you I'm hopeful this is an issue that can be repaired - not cheaply, but at least a repair and not a total loss.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?
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Check sump

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Did they even bother to check the sump?

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?
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Replace oil, and cut apart the oil filter

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This mechanic changed the oil, and cut apart the oil filter.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Replace successfully

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The guides can be replaced successfully and for much, much less than a new motor.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Took the car to a different Porsche mechanic (more geographically convenient than the mechanic I used a year ago).

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Check sump

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Did they even bother to check the sump?

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?
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Check sump

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Did they even bother to check the sump?

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Repair not cheaply

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Now that I've gotten feedback from all of you I'm hopeful this is an issue that can be repaired - not cheaply, but at least a repair and not a total loss.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Replace cam guides

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You can replace the cam guides.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Replace oil, and cut apart the oil filter

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This mechanic changed the oil, and cut apart the oil filter.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Replace successfully

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The guides can be replaced successfully and for much, much less than a new motor.

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?

Use year ago)

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Took the car to a different Porsche mechanic (more geographically convenient than the mechanic I used a year ago).

Do I need an engine, or can it be repaired?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Purchased a 996 3 years ago with 75k miles on it, haven't had any major issues. 5/4/17 check engine light on - car seemed to be running fine. 83.5K miles on the car. Porsche mechanic scan result - P1531 - Bank1 camshaft adjuster. He cleared the fault, activated the camshaft adjuster with the scan tool, both adjusters were working correctly. Car has been running fine since. 5/15/18 check engine light on. 85.8k miles. Took the car to a different Porsche mechanic (more geographically convenient than the mechanic I used a year ago). Same scan result - P1531. This mechanic changed the oil, and cut apart the oil filter. Found plastic chain parts in the filter. Telling me I need a new engine. After more discussion with him he explained that he can't rebuild an engine so he's telling me to replace it. I picked the car up yesterday - it's driving fine, but I realize that doesn't mean there isn't an underlying issue. I did research before buying this car, so I knew that I may need to (or choose to) do the IMS upgrade at some point, and likely at the same time would do the clutch (which is currently fine). My question - can the chains and chain slides be replaced, or do I really need a new engine? I live north of Boston, MA, so any recommendations on mechanics would be very helpful. Thanks.

POST 2Original post

You can replace the cam guides. How much plastic was in the filter? Could it have trashed the rest of the motor?

POST 3Original post

This why I hate mechanics! Drop the sump and inspect the pieces, take pictures, have an oil analysis done and report back.

POST 4Original post

You really need to get some expert advice and some better information. How much plastic debris was in the filter? Did they even bother to check the sump? The chain rails do wear and can be replaced, but it really is an engine out job. Getting the P1531 Bank 1 actuator replaced is also an engine out job. But I really would recommend having an 996 expert take a look at your issues and discuss with you your options. Unless you have a thick wallet and can afford a new engine. You are heading into an area of either a total $ sucking engine rebuild, or a replacement short block for big $$$$$.

POST 5Original post

What year is your car? Sounds like the variocam pads are worn , they are on the variocam adjuster in each cam box , they get badly worn after a while!

POST 6Original post

"I can't fix it so you need a new engine." Now that's a mechanic who should be an Uber driver. Get the vehicle to a Porsche expert, someone who primarily works on Porsche and has been doing so for at least the last 15 years.

POST 7Original post

Call me crazy, but I'd probably park the car until you fix the issue. ;-)

POST 8Original post

2001 and older 996 motors have notoriously soft plastic variocam guides. The plastic bits are more than likely from them. As the guides wear the camshaft deviation slowly increases and one gets a CEL when the deviation gets bad enough. The guides can be replaced successfully and for much, much less than a new motor. The really competent Porsche engine mechanic can do this. It's not cheap though; I'm thinking about $1500 per side of the motor. YMMV.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 15025757

Beats the cost of the new engine, sounds like its time to find a new mechanic...

POST 10Original post

I did my cam tensioner pads and chains in my garage... As others have said, find a new "mechanic" - that guy is an idiot, and unethical to boot. If you're not up to doing it yourself, any competent mechanic should be able do it. If they hem and haw, find someone else. It can even be done with the engine in the car, but for ease and precision, it's recommended to drop/remove the engine. Good luck

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you all for your feedback, much appreciated. When I got the call last week telling me I need a new engine I was thinking I wasn't going to be able to fix it. Now that I've gotten feedback from all of you I'm hopeful this is an issue that can be repaired - not cheaply, but at least a repair and not a total loss.

POST 12Original post

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Listen, the problem with the internet is that you get a bunch of "experts" commenting on second hand info or "hearsay"... Taken at face value, everything you told us in your first post points to the fact that the mechanic is either clueless or worse. Of course it's possible that your post doesn't convey the entirety of the story. Bottom line is that if you're not doing the work yourself, you need to find someone who is a) Experienced with M96 engines and (b) Is a ethical business person that not looking to screw you. However it works out, I wish you luck and a good outcome

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