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Use car dealers

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Oh, also, don't underestimate those used car dealers.

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Run away

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Run away from this one.

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Use gives slightly different data than the above link

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The decoder I use gives slightly different data than the above link.

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Run away

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Run away from this one.

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Run forrest

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No one knows...Run Forrest, run!

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Run list published

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Looks like Manheim New England does not yet have their Pre-sale run list published for next Thursday, March 10th.

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Run away

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Run away from this one.

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Run forrest

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No one knows...Run Forrest, run!

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Run list published

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Looks like Manheim New England does not yet have their Pre-sale run list published for next Thursday, March 10th.

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Use car dealers

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Oh, also, don't underestimate those used car dealers.

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Use gives slightly different data than the above link

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The decoder I use gives slightly different data than the above link.

Update on 996 at BMW dealership

Use reverse

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Would make for a great car for someone who drives a lot on the freeway or someone who doesn't need to use reverse to park."

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Car is going to auction Tuesday. They have $27k into it. Has a reserve of $15k.

POST 2Original post

Heh. If they are honest about it's condition they won't get that. Really hope they don't pass the screwing on to someone else

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13073718

No they are being upfront about it saying engine is damaged. Who knows though some knuckle head who doesn't understand 996 motors may take a chance on it. I think the scariest scenario would be someone buys it and flips it to an unsuspecting buyer. It is running fine at the moment.

POST 4Original post

Don't suppose there is anyway we you can get the VIN from it? I think it should be spread far and wide so that any potential future buyers know it's history and can hopefully avoid being burned if it isn't repaired correctly (which I doubt it will be, especially if they get their reserve).

POST 5Original post

Looks like Manheim New England does not yet have their Pre-sale run list published for next Thursday, March 10th. I'll keep an eye on it and post what I find out. It will show VIN on the auction listing. Oh, also, don't underestimate those used car dealers. They may not look like geniuses, but they know cars and the market. The knuckleheads don't last long in the business. The BMW dealer got screwed because it was lazy and the employees don't give a crap (except, maybe the used car manager). But, the small lot guys aren't going to be that way because it's their own money.

POST 6Original post

Saying the engine is "damaged" is like saying Rick Allen cut his left arm in a car accident. -Eric

POST 7Original post

LOL. This is from the series of "Car runs fantastic, but overheats after 5 minutes. Could be something minor, but I am not a mechanic and don't have time to investigate" & "Car drives strong and runs fantastic, great interior. One little issues is that reverse gear is out. Would make for a great car for someone who drives a lot on the freeway or someone who doesn't need to use reverse to park."

POST 8Original post

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Wow that brings up memories I remember those boys from their first support gig in the USA, opening for Ozzy at Pine ****. We were completely blown away when they started to play and a great bunch of kids to be on tour with. Rick is a great guy.

POST 9Original post

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Wow... Pine ****. Haven't heard that one thrown out in a loooong time. Been awhile since I left MI.

POST 10Original post

Does anyone have more details about this auction/ where to follow the results? I assume if it is a Meineke auction that it will not be open to the general public?

POST 11Original post

WP0CA299X4S650844 I am certain this is the car. Blue over tan 2004 C4S, 53k miles, cab, 6 speed, for sale by a BMW dealership at Manheim New England on Tuesday, 3/8/16. Interestingly, there is no Condition Report for the car, which would give the car a number grade for condition and would disclose the engine problem. most cars have them for benefit of Internet bidders. Also, I see no announcements listed for the car, which is the other place you would note the engine problem.

POST 12Original post

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That's because it doesn't exist anymore....it's now DTE theater,

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 13081138

It was for the longest time, the largest in the country, and I know it's still one of the top producing venues

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The decoder I use gives slightly different data than the above link. 2004 Porsche Carrera C4S Cabriolet Division: PCNA Commission #: 504963 Prod Month: 10/2003 VIN: WP0CA299X4S650844 Price: $106,570.00 Exterior: Midnight Blue Metallic Interior: Savanna Beige Full Leather Warranty Start: March 08, 2004 Additional Equipment 342 Heated Front Seats 446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest 513 Lumbar Support-Right Seat 586 Lumbar Support-Left Seat 680 Bose High End Sound Package 692 Remote CD Changer (6 Disc) 750 Delete Cabriolet Hardtop E72 Dark Wood Interior Package E9 Midnight Blue Metallic M6S Savanna Beige Floor Mats P16 Porsche Communication Mgt. II P74 Xenon Headlamp Package SD Savanna Beige Full Leather V4 Metropol Blue Top XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest Y08 Brake/Shifter Dk Wood/Aluminum Issue ID Failed Affected Component Miles City/State VIN Pattern 827100 02/10/10 ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING 29000 PEBBLE BEACH, CA WP0CA299X4S 924080 11/06/12 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 57000 BLUE RIDGE SUMMIT, PA WP0CA299X4S 924081 11/06/12 AIR BAGS 57000 BLUE RIDGE SUMMIT, PA WP0CA299X4S

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll inquire after Tuesdays auction how much the C4S went for and post whatever info I can get.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 13081483

savanna beige with dark wood trim interior?? horrible and more suited for a lexus

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 13081974

Hey! That's a little hars...no, spot on. Sounds like the ex's LS430. TC

POST 19Original post

there are several turbo's with that same wood trim interior - complete turn off

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 13081974

I agree. beige + dark wood trim on a sports car = pudding/jello = old people. Sorry if I offended anyone but that's what it reminds me of.

POST 21Original post

Hi guys, I am new to this forum, and new to the search for a Porsche. I have dreamed of owning one for longer than I care to admit, and with the last child out of college last week, I am finally in a position to start my search. My question to you all is this: I came across the car mentioned in this thread on Car Gurus, and with the VIN search came up with this thread. I see that it started 2 years ago, is there any update to the motor problems mentioned here? I haven't been able to come up with any updates. Aside from the mention of the interior choices, is there anything else you have come up with in your search? Thanks in advance!

POST 22Original post

Interesting. What is the current mileage? If it is still around 53k, that would be a huge flag that it still has major issues. It's possible someone did the necessary work in the past two years to adress the issues, but I would be very leery.

POST 23Original post

I googled the VIN because my curiosity got the best of me. I see a dealer in NY has it and it only has 3k miles more than it did 2 years ago. There is no detail about the condition of the car on their web site. They are also asking 31k, so it is no bargain. Run away from this one.

POST 24Original post

The ad states mileage is 56,701 miles. The carfax is available for it, but it isn't free. Before I start looking deeper into it I wanted to get as much info as is currently available from those who know more about its past.

POST 25Original post

No one knows...Run Forrest, run! Carfax is not an expensive tool to have, it can give you a general idea of service history and potential issues, but it's not 100% accurate.

POST 26Original post

id dodge this car like the plague personally.

POST 27Original post

I will pass on this one. Thank you for your input, it's a help for sure.

POST 28Original post

As I mentioned, I am new to the search process. Any input or leads you all can provide will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

POST 29Original post

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What do you mean by "leads"? Are you looking for help finding a similar car to the one in question? If so, what exactly are your wants? I've helped find a couple others their cars but can't find my own...yet!

POST 30Original post

Yes, I am looking for a car similar in year and features to the one mentioned in this thread. Definitely a Cab, and ideally I would like the C4 S features, but the "S" part isn't a must. Thanks!

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