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YOUR RESEARCH996 or 1 series BMW
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Started out researching a Boxster, then went to a early 996, due to their current selling prices, but then began thinking about long term repair costs and the fact that I already have a 911.
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Started out researching a Boxster, then went to a early 996, due to their current selling prices, but then began thinking about long term repair costs and the fact that I already have a 911.
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I test drove a non-turbo cab when they arrived at dealers, was thinking about getting one for my wife.
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Those cars are a whoot (at least the coupe was I test drove).
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Started out researching a Boxster, then went to a early 996, due to their current selling prices, but then began thinking about long term repair costs and the fact that I already have a 911.
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Choices of 2000 or newer 996 or new 1 series BMW with 4 year 50,000 mile warranty. 996 would have to pass PPI. Never had a BMW so don't know about this entry level vehicle. Just wanting a open air 3rd car (have 997 coupe-that I will keep) to drive in nice weather and probably keep for a decade or so. Your comments are appreciated.
If you're looking for a fair weather wind in your hair ride, after you've driven the Bimmer, take a ride in an '06 or newer Corvette. 400hp of low-end torque can get your blood pumping.
I haven't driven the 1 series car, but I really like the 3 series vert. Steering, brakes and handling are superb. I drove the 335xi and liked everything but the shifter - vague, rubbery and not very BMW-like. That was the only disappointment - enough to steer me back to my Audi TT. I don't love the look of the 1 series either, but that's just my taste.
I know very well BMW cars.
I have a BMW 1 series and It's a wondeful car.
Well balanced in all whatever you want but I don't undertand the thread tittle
996 or 1 series BMW???
there's no comparison
Cool, I'm sure they're more popular in Europe.
I'm in Bimmerland here, but I have really only see maybe 1 on the road all year!
Seems like a spectacular flop for BMW?
I test drove a non-turbo cab when they arrived at dealers, was thinking about getting one for my wife. Also tested the Eos with the 2.0T.
Have you visited a dealer? You should be able to get a great deal, and an 135 cab with a chip would be a hoot.
I love my 996, but I couldn't see buying a 997 and keeping the 996. The driving differences are minimal. I would go for something different just because it was different.
How about a used Z4? Boxster would be a great choice also. Between a 1 series and a 996, there really isn't a comparison at all - 996 is the clear choice there, plus it's cheap.
Doesn't matter what that particular website says. The Porsche corporation and the the Porsche Family know how to pronounce it, and so do most porsche owners, in fact.
I just wrote an article for my local BMW CCA Chapter magazine about the 1 series. Overall it's a great car and presents a nice argument against the M3 when it comes to price for performance. There are however shortcomings to the car in terms of dynamics that need to be highlighted. The 1 series in the US does not come with an LSD and with a front engine, rear drive car, it's really a necessity to extract the performance out of a car which sports 300+ HP (talking about the 135). Also the weight is an issue, for a car that is quite a bit smaller than a normal 3 series, it's striking to me that it weights 3400 lbs. You can feel the weight transitions in the car and fighting physics is not enjoyable when really pushing it. Steering feels good and turn in is pretty quick and the car initially feels way more balanced than the 335. I have yet to drive it really aggressively on an autocross course so I'm eager to see what that's like.
Overall, the car is a very nice balance of luxury and performance. Styling of the car is subjective but I think it certainly looks better than some of the new BMWs out there now. The one thing I can't get over is the skirt arch that makes the car look like it's bent in the middle. Finally, if you're comparing it to a 996, fun factor and driving dynamics, the Porsche wins it hands down. While the 135 has good steering and ok feel the 996 trumps it in spades in terms of feedback and precision. Power is pretty much a wash as the 135 can easily keep up with older 996's. The 135's torque is almost intoxicating and can cloud your initial opinion of the car as it makes it really fun in a straight line. Will it beat it a 996 in straight line power? Probably not but a competent driver should be able to keep up without too much of an issue. Driver position is better in the 996 and so is sight lines. Brake feel is also better in the 996.
When you start throwing issues of warranty in to the mix, it's hard not to consider the 135 seriously but in the end, it's a performance 2 door sedan, not a sports car. I would drive both cars and see which fits you better. What are your goals for the car? Daily driver with some fun or dedicated weekend fun toy?
When we find out more, we can better give you advice,
LJPETE:
Thanks for your response. I'm not really into high speed any longer at the age of 61, but since purchasing a house in NC, would like to have a CAB for top down driving. Started out researching a Boxster, then went to a early 996, due to their current selling prices, but then began thinking about long term repair costs and the fact that I already have a 911. So began thinking about a new BMW. Would want a manual tranny no matter which.
Not in any hurry. Prices on 996's will most likely continue to decline over the winter months. I'm sure I will be able to secure a "good deal" no matter which direction I decide. New BMW with a 4 year warranty sounds great, but it's certainly not a Porsche. Other comments welcome.
Good notes.
I like the 1 series because it's different and a little more compact, but the 135 should really come in full performance mode.
The 128 should be priced more aggressively, and it's fine with 230hp for a base car.
They should also sell a base version here with one of their excellent turbo-diesels.
Considering the 128 is around $35 and the 135 is around $40, you have a pretty nice selection of Porsches in your price range. A nice CPO Boxster S can be had for ~$30K, and a "cheapo" non-S non-CPO for around ~$10K.
Also, what about an late model CPO M3 convertible?
Just throwing out some options...
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You already have a 997. you also have a Cayenne. This would be a 3rd/4th car.. weekends only etc. Do you need/want a back seat area? If so, then Boxster doesn't make sense. If its not needed, why not? Find a 2003-4 Boxster S. Pay cash. Fix it if it breaks. Still CPO "able" I'd imagine. Certainly aftermarket warranty-able. Different than the 997. Still a porsche!
Or, how about a Mini Cooper S cab? Those cars are a whoot (at least the coupe was I test drove).
1-series is just too darn heavy, imho and small for the price. A used M3 cab might be a nice alternative if you want a BMW
. A nice CPO Boxster S can be had for ~$30K, and a "cheapo" non-S non-CPO for around ~$10K.
Have Boxsters drop THAT much, that they are now around 10K? I thought anything decent was still around 20K. Probably this is what I should shoot for - great time to buy a CAB. Just wife and me, so don't really need back seat, just desire another fun ride!
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