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YOUR RESEARCHCargraphic Racing Vs BBS Racing
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Race teams tend to check the condition of their items A LOT more than people do on their street cars, including magnafluxing to check for cracks.
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This guy ran TC Kline race parts, that he bought used and didn't update (which a race team would have done), then the part failed and he tried to blame TC Design.
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They are designed/intended for track use (where the road surface tends to be a bit smoother); I would not drive them on the street at all.
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Any thoughts on the suiatibility for street use of either of these wheels.
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just curious-- why do you want to use race wheels for the street?
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This guy ran TC Kline race parts, that he bought used and didn't update (which a race team would have done), then the part failed and he tried to blame TC Design.
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Any thoughts on the suiatibility for street use of either of these wheels. I saw that the BBS where deemed suitable with the aluminium center. Not sure about the Cargraphic.
I believe what you may be asking is the issue of BBS aluminum vs. BBS magnesium centers on their race wheels. If so, you're right, the magnesiums should be reserved for track use, the aluminums would be more suitable to street use. Better yet, pick a BBS design that was intended for street use.
Not sure about the cargraphics.
General rule is if they're intended by the mfr for racing use, that's where they should be used. Race teams tend to check the condition of their items A LOT more than people do on their street cars, including magnafluxing to check for cracks. Race parts (including wheels) have built-in compromises relating to their single-purpose use and to lighten weight, which doesn't necessarily translate to street use. They're just meant for different purposes.
See this thread for a GREAT example of what happens when people treat race parts like street parts:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1582205&page=1
This guy ran TC Kline race parts, that he bought used and didn't update (which a race team would have done), then the part failed and he tried to blame TC Design.
Cargraphic are not magnesium and are very solid, TUV approved. They are heavier than BBS however. I have a set of Cargraphic racing wheels on my car (see avatar) and I love them. Magnesium is not a good idea for the street as correctly mentioned above..Also, magnesium cracks with time.
Weight difference is not a consideration even for the occasional track race or DE.. I do not recall the weight but it was something like 2.5 lbs per wheel or so..
The Cargraphic GT3RS that won the German tuner shootout was wearing them, so I guess they must not be a handicap.
Serious racing wheels like BBS and Jongbloeds also have pretty thin halves that won't hold up very well against the hazards of street driving. I would stick to street wheels for street use.
Jim
I agree with JimB.
I have 3 pc BBS racing wheels off the Cup car; the aluminum halves are very prone to bending if you hit even a very small pothole. They are designed/intended for track use (where the road surface tends to be a bit smoother); I would not drive them on the street at all.
BBS does make 'race look' wheels designed for street use.
So I'll have to find out whether the Cargraphic are strictly racing wheel as the name implies or whether they are useable on the street....anyone would know that ?
As I mentioned, Cargraphic racing wheels are TUV (DOT) approved. That's the German regulating body which is the strictest in the world. They are very strong street wheels, I have been using them for two years on street and track, bulletproof and still look like new.
As ltc mentioned, BBS has new wheels with aluminum centers that are for the street, and very light. Check them out at
www.carnewal.com
Mbergeron, they are very solid street wheels, called "racing" (maybe this is what is confusing you?)
The BBS aluminum ones too are for the street.
Get any of the two, they are both great!
Marc,
I"m in Toronto and have a beautiful set of Cargraphic 3pc racing wheels (street wheels, called racing) with almost new Conti Sports. The wheels were just proffesionally refinished and look brand new. I've had them on my car for only 2 weeks.
If you're interested let me know.
Cheers,
Stan
