01 Lemon Value

Hi all I currently am looking to get out of my 02 M3 and into a 996. I would like to keep the money close so that I am not much out of pocket on this one. I cam across a 01 guards red with 30k on it for 34,900. Its a manufacture buy back. Assuming that it passes ppi whats this thing worth? Im thinking because of the previous lemon history that it should be round 29k. What to you guys think? Also any one know of any 996's in the 30 flat range or less with 50-60k miles on it? Sean 02 M3 Carbon black/black some mods.... 96 ViperGTS@10PSI 99 Ducati Monster ALL Black and Loud

I remember seeing this advertised. It's at the Chicago place, right? If you ever plan to sell it, and you will someday, it will be very hard. The vast majority of people buying this type of car don't want that type of issue. Having said that, if it passes a PPI, high 20's would seem to be fair? good luck and keep us posted. Mark

I sure wouldn't pay more than 30K for it...

2001 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA2/4 WP0AA29961S620114 COUPE 3.4L H6 SEFI DOHC / REAR WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment | Safety Options CARFAX Vehicle History - At A Glance 4 billion vehicle history events checked from public and private sources DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee Last reported mileage - 25,750 miles A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car. CARFAX guarantees the information in this section Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt No Problem Fire/ Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback | Lemon Alert! Problem Found Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits No Problem Alert! Severe problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). This vehicle does not qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee. Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Frame Damage Check No frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Airbag Deployment Check No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Odometer Rollback Check No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated Accident Check No accidents reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Manufacturer Recall Check No recalls still require repair. No Recalls Reported A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 20 record(s) for this 2001 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA2/4 ( WP0AA29961S620114 ). Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 04/30/2002 8,635 Pacific Audi Torrance, CA [phone removed] www.lacarguy.com Vehicle serviced Recommended maintenance service performed Headlight bulb replaced Headlights adjusted Wheel(s) replaced A/C expansion/orifice valve replaced A/C freon recharged VAS system checked Drive belts replaced A/C compressor replaced Outsourced repairs completed Paintless dent repair Emissions inspection completed Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated Sunroof checked Electrical Battery charged 12/15/2002 8,787 California Motor Vehicle Dept. Anaheim, CA Title issued or updated Loan or lien reported Registered as lease vehicle 04/10/2003 13,493 Service Facility Vehicle serviced Electrical system serviced Emissions system serviced Suspension system serviced 04/10/2003 Pacific Audi Torrance, CA [phone removed] www.lacarguy.com Vehicle serviced Engine/powertrain computer/module checked Air flow meter replaced Recommended maintenance service performed Relay replaced Tires rotated 06/30/2003 16,099 Service Facility Vehicle serviced 06/30/2003 Pacific Audi Torrance, CA [phone removed] www.lacarguy.com Vehicle serviced Recommended maintenance service performed Front wiper blades/refills replaced Four wheel alignment performed 10/31/2003 20,715 Service Facility Vehicle serviced Electrical system serviced 10/31/2003 Pacific Audi Torrance, CA [phone removed] www.lacarguy.com Vehicle serviced Automatic transmission fluid flushed Front seat replaced Seatbelt buckle replaced 01/15/2004 24,840 Pacific Audi Torrance, CA [phone removed] www.lacarguy.com Vehicle serviced Recommended maintenance service performed Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated Tail light assembly replaced Tail light bulb replaced Engine/powertrain computer/module checked Safety inspection performed 02/06/2004 25,626 California Motor Vehicle Dept. Atlanta, GA New owner reported MANUFACTURER BUYBACK OR LEMON REPORTED Loan or lien reported 02/06/2004 Porsche Cars North America VEHICLE REACQUIRED Vehicle reacquired by the manufacturer pursuant to applicable state consumer warranty laws or to promote customer satisfaction. Reason: Down time associated with multiple repairs: oil leak, air bag 02/11/2004 Service Facility Vehicle serviced Electrical system serviced State inspection completed 03/11/2004 California Motor Vehicle Dept. MANUFACTURER BUYBACK OR LEMON REPORTED 03/31/2004 California Motor Vehicle Dept. MANUFACTURER BUYBACK OR LEMON REPORTED 04/29/2004 25,637 Auto Auction Sold at auction in Pacific Region Listed as a fleet vehicle 05/06/2004 25,639 Dealer Inventory Minneapolis, MN Vehicle offered for sale 07/12/2004 25,748 Service Facility Vehicle serviced 10/19/2004 25,750 Minnesota Motor Vehicle Dept. Rochester, MN Title #D2920S901 Title or registration issued New owner reported Loan or lien reported 01/17/2006 Dealer Inventory Downers Grove, IL Vehicle offered for sale 04/25/2006 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair What price would it be worth picking up? 02 M3 Carbon black/black some mods.... 96 ViperGTS@10PSI 99 Ducati Monster ALL Black and Loud

I think this car is at Luxury Motors in the Chicago area. I asked to have it brought to one of their stores prior to getting the carfax. The car was never brought over and the salesman didn't call for 2 wks. Meanwhile I got that report. I ended up bying a cabriolet from Florida. This probably says nothing specific about the car... just my 2 cent..

Personally, I would not care what the price was; I would not buy it. If you are going to spend the money to buy a high end car, but a good one. If you can't afford a good one, wait until you can. Also, consider that it is out of warranty. Because of the buy back status, it can't be certifed and most insurance companies won't sell an extended warranty for it. It you can't really afford the car, can you afford to pay for any problems?

But what is the lemon history? I had a client who got her car replaced (but also had the option of a full refund) when the car was declared a lemon. In her case the engine would shut off unexpectedly, even on the highway. But sometimes cars are declared lemons because something as innocuous as a power window not working properly and which couldn't be repaired after three attempts. The point is, all lemons aren't created equal. You need to find out what is wrong with the car that caused it to be declared a lemon. Until we know that, we can't have an intelligent discussion as to what it is worth.

It looks to me by the carfax that it had lots of electrical and then eventually engine problems. They are not moving on the price so its a moot point. According to them it is heavily discounted and should be in the 45k range if it wasn't a buy back. So, anyone know of any 996's for 30 flat? I see 99's but there has got to be some 00's or 01's somewhere.

I would stay away..... Buy a Boxster if you can't afford a better one....

I did a quick search on cars.com Here's an 00 http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...7&aff=national

If it ends in 'ster its for her....

If you buy the lemon you may feel like her.....