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I have also installed a few Tech art short shifter kits that mount on the tranny, easy install, but doesn't feel as good as the B&M.
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I replaced the original with Schnell at my office desk between conference calls.
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I put the B&M in car SS in my 2000 C4. Easy install if you are handy. Love it. Shorter throws, crisper. I did replace the shifter linkage with an Agency Power linkage at the same time. The stock part is plastic, wears fast and has a lost of slop in it after awhile. If you have the console apart you might wnant to do the linkage at the same time. Don't have any experience with the under car version from B&M
does anybody have the instructions for the under car version. I am wondering what is involved in the installation. I know some people are running both.
Just installed the Schnell set up. Excellent step by step with pics instructions, and comes with seat belt pads.
Shifts tight and positive.
I'm Happy!
Elliot
I have the B&M, no problems. Sounds like either brand is a good choice. it is too bad that these shifters are not standard on the 996. They make all the difference in the world.
I agree, they should make them stock. The first thing I do whenever I pick up a new sports car is install a SSK. I have heard good things about the B&M, but the Schnell looks identical and have heard good things about it, but not as much as the B&M. I think I will give the Schnell a try and see, if I do not like it, sell and get the B&M. Thanks for the input guys.
I installed the Schnell unit and to date have been happy. I also drove my buddies 996 with the B&M SSK, no difference. The Schnell unit came with good instructions but I also downloaded the B&M process and was able to pick up one or two tips to make the installation easier.
Get either or...but get the SSK mod!!!!!
had a B&M in my 2002. I just intalled the snell in my 2004 C4s. The directions were pretty good. Cutting the snap in flanges from the stock set up was a bit unnerving. I contemplated getting out the dremel tool!.
The job was easy and the results are crisp and fo $160 on ebay, a bargain. Vertex sells them for under $200.
Steve
I had the Schnell installed a few months ago. Love the difference. Did my first PCA Performance Driving School not long after and definitely enjoyed the difference!!
Just ordered the Schnell from Vertex. Should have it here tomorrow. From talking to the vendor it's identical to B&M, which I believe is the OEM supplier for Porsche.
The schnell is a direct knock off of the B&M so they should both be very similar in feel. And agreed, a short throw should be the first mod installed in a 996 or boxster. I have also installed a few Tech art short shifter kits that mount on the tranny, easy install, but doesn't feel as good as the B&M.
Guys - I ordered my first Schnell parts (GT3 exhaust system) from Vertex and was disappointed with the quality of the welds/etc. The headers were crap -- looked like a high school shop class built them. The guys at Vertex were great to deal with, but much of that Schnell stuff is made in Asia and while it may "look like" B&M, I doubt the quality is as close. As for B&M, not bad stuff but the plastic pieces are not as strong as the Porsche OEM (steel connectors, etc.) I went with the Porsche OE SSK because it wasn't that much more money and I've learned over time that saving $50 now, usually costs me $300 later by having to "un do" the bargain parts I installed and putting the good ones on. I too surf eBay, PCA.org, Rennlist, etc. looking for deals and agree that parts can be found out there. If you're going to do track time with the SSK, I'd opt for the better part. The $100 you think you're saving by going non-OE (in this case) can be recouped by cutting out 60 days of Starbucks. I'm even replacing my "street" shifter cables with GT3 Cup (Porsche Motorsports) shifter cables due to their stronger construction. I think the cost is again maybe $100-$150 difference, but if we can afford these cars then we should be able to afford the parts -- buying the Motorsports cable might look expensive, but its cheaper than throwing away $300 on a race/DE weekend (plus travel expenses) when the street cable breaks.
Totally concur a la the OEM commentary, but you're a little off with the Starbucks calculation.
A customer drinking mocha-latte-chino-anything need only avoid the store for 30 days and they're done. That place is a bigger rip-off than the un-negotiated cost of dealer scheduled maintenance.
Ok, just installed the Schnell SSK. Getting the actual shifter housing out took about 10 minutes.
I replaced the original with Schnell at my office desk between conference calls. Very straight forward. The unit looks a lot more solid than the factory set up, the bushings are beefier as well.
Only drove the car for about 5 minutes and what a difference it makes. Gear selection is much more crisp, the throw is MUCH shorter and more precise.
