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just personal preference
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They actually replaced my model with an updated model called the DNX-6980.
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I just used an eBay one, Euro Motor Speed or something like that.
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I recently purchased just the bezel from Euro Motorsports to replace the plain bezel that my installer used on my Pioneer AVIC 930bt.
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I am probably a month behind you, but since I have MOST, have a lot more bits to buy
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Did you guys replace the amp as well, or hook it into the MOST system? I have been reading old posts but can't get this part clear in my head. Some people mention loss of functionality by not using the MOST connection. I don't care about nav instructions on the MFD but don't want to be compromising service lights etc.
Thanks, Ben
AVICX-930BT. Yanked all the Bose stuff. Relocated climate control. Speakers, sub on the rear deck, traffic, HD radio. First long drive a couple weeks ago to Bandon Dunes from Portland. Road trip is now much more tolerable. Glad I waited until the technology was worth spending the dough.
I seriously considered a Pioneer AVIC unit when I did my upgrade last year. I don't think the AVH was available then.
I chose the Kenwood Excelon DNX-6960 for the following reasons:
1. It has a **** instead of buttons or touch screen to control volume. I like this much better, because it's faster and easier than buttons.
2. It is solid state - no motorized face. I like this better, and it's one less thing to break.
3. At the time, it had the fastest processor available, so the screens change very quickly when you press a button. No all units are fast - some are painfully slow.
4. Kenwood units feature Garmin navigation with live traffic updates, which I like very much.
5. Sound quality. The Kenwood unit sounds very, very good.
Any of the units will be a huge upgrade from the stock system, but I'd look at them all and prioritize what you think is important when you make your selection. I'd stick with a well-known brand like Kenwood or Pioneer. There are others out there that are cheaper, but I would avoid them if I were you.
Good luck and have fun! It's a great upgrade!
Good points Dennis, though in NZ (since Ill get a unit from the US) the Navigation wont work, so Ill get a non-GPS unit. The new AVH seem to have button volume controls too. I will have a look at Kenwood, but tend to go Pioneer for head units in the past...
I'm not sure. They actually replaced my model with an updated model called the DNX-6980. It's the same unit, but it features integrated Pandora. I can use Pandora on mine, but I have to start it on my iPhone before I put the phone in the dock.
I'm sure Pioneer has some units that have a volume **** too - it would be worth looking if you like Pioneer products. I think Pioneer makes excellent products, and you can definitely find something you like. Again - the **** vs. button issue is just personal preference. I happen to like it better.
Regarding the MOST system and Bose, to put in an aftermarket head unit, you will have to bypass the MOST system, which means replacing the amp. Then, the Bose speakers are 2 ohm speakeras as opposed to 4 or 8, which is industry standard. And the subwoofers (which are actually transducers) are 1 ohm. So, you have to either find an amp that is stable to 1 ohm, or run the sub transducers in series to bump the impedance up to 2 ohms. Then you only need an amp stable to 2 ohms, which is easier to find. OR you can replace all of the speakers, although the subs being transducers will make it difficult to replace with a traditional driver.
If you do a search for Bose and look for posts by ltc (Lewis), you can learn a lot, since he designed the system.
Stage one completed, AC controls moved to the bottom, you dont need to untape the connectors like Euro Motor suggest you can get them down as is. Next step will be to put the metal cage in, not liking this part as it requires a lot of commitment lol
The kenwood units work in nz with Nav, either with a Garmin sd card or NZ open source maps which are free. I put a DNX 7100 in my Touareg a couple of years ago. There was a hack to get .1 fm channel spacing that was on google, and I never worried about the zone 1 DVD but could have had that chipped to. The garmin nz maps are excellent. Pm me if you need them ;-)
Thanks David, I do like the look of the Kenwood units, I just completed the rest of the conversion less the wiring, will do that tomorrow then buy a Kenwood unit
I lost a clamp / retaining clip in the process though, its one which holds the switch trim (i.e. psm and convertible top etc) to the console. I think its metal and the plastic part on the trim presses into it. I think its part 999 507 533 02, can any PET pro confirm?
Nearly there just need to buy and wire up the unit I get
The wiring harness for the Euro Motor Speed doesnt quite match the stock wiring harness, in that on the black plug there is one extra wire not account for in the EMS one.
Really liked the DNX series, but went with the Pioneer AVH-P4400BH in the end. Better priced and I dont need to worry about re-buying Maps on NZ for the navigation...
480x240 doesnt set the world on fire, but adequate for me... its a pretty low cost head unit I guess screen res was one of their sacrifices to get cost down and differentiate the model.
NZ...how does the plastic bezel attach to the metal cage? I recently purchased just the bezel from Euro Motorsports to replace the plain bezel that my installer used on my Pioneer AVIC 930bt. I am wondering if it will work with the existing hardware.
Ok so I wired it up, including a wee bypass relay for the parking brake so it can play movies all the time
Took about an hour. And honestly, you are a fool not to do this mod! Its awesome! Loving the bluetooth connection to the phone, makes it so easy, very cool. It has hundreds of colours too for the buttons you can see, so you can pretty much get the stock dash colour in it.
I just used an eBay one, Euro Motor Speed or something like that.
I have found that the alarm horn now kind of beeps once after arming post installing the stereo... weird.
Im really stuck on the amplifier selection now... not sure if I go 5 channel, sub channel for door subs and other four for the dash and rear speakers, or just a mono channel for the doors and head unit for the dash and rear speakers... will be upgrading the rest of the speakers at some point, but dont want a big ugly amp taking up space in the frunk. Hmmmm
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