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Well, that's a little better, but with around 7% more power and no change in the weight that is not a lot.
I have read lot's of negative views about the limited edition carrera 2. I think it's the real deal , cos.......
A very very high bhp/weight ratio
A more powerful tweaked engine - 345 bhp
Better traction
better suspension
A superb colour
a unique front end
Special interior spec I like the cool seats
wheels which match the ext paint job
exterior and interior identification
This is a special edition
and remember the new 997 and be even heavier and will have alot of rounded curves like the audi tt ....the c4s and turbo have already started the process....this will be the last pre bulbous limited edition porsche and I think the spec and the low number of units 1,963 in both europe and the states make it a pretty cool buy and a good after sale proposition.
Donnyj
Donny
I agree. Looks a great combo - narrow body, lots of power, great colour (not so sure abot chromed wheels).
Generally prefer last year of an old model rather than first year of the next.
"This is a special edition"
so was the 911 Millineum at less than HALF the production numbers of this one and it's about as collectable (and will do as well resale wise) as a 98 Boxster.
Ben: You insult the 40th anniversary 911 by comparing it to the "pimp daddy" 911 Millenium Edition.
No offense to the people that own, or like, the 911 Millenium Edition but funky paint, chromed wheels and some special logos are hardly what I'd consider a "special edition". The 40th anniversary car at least gets some guts to go with the glitz. And GT Silver metallic paint is a whole lot easier to live with/sell than Violet Chroma Flair.
i too like the idea of the 40th edition. the specs speak for themselves and i am also a fan of the 996, i love mine and would love to have one with the proposed specs planned.
Ben,
The ACPORD status means an order has been accepted by PCNA and has been assigned an order reference number. It's basically the first step of the order process. With credit to 986faq.com, here's the general sequence the status prgresses:
ACKNWL Order acknowledged by PCNA
ACPORD Order accepted by PCNA
MFGCNF Assigned a Production Number
PLPROD Vehicle is Planned for Production
PROD Vehicle in Production
CMPPRD Vehicle Completed Production
PRDLST Factory Last Checkpoint
IMPINV Vehicle Complete and Invoiced
ONVESL On Vessel
IMPPRT Vehicle at U.S. Port
PDI Vehicle at PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection)
PDIFIN Vehicle Finished PDI
INVSHP Invoiced and Shipped to Dealer
Ben: I forgot to add that list dates back to early Boxster days and some status codes that showed up when I ordered my Boxster in 2001 weren't on it. If you're _really_ curious you might want to check with your dealer to see what the current code list is. I haven't asked myself as, with a March build allocation, I'm expecting to be at ACPORD for a while.
Donny, can you explain any of the 'fact's above?
'A very very high power to weight ration' - why is that? Is it lighter as well?
'Better traction' - how?
'Better suspension' - why?
I won't bother with whether the colours or seats or wheels look cool as these are very subjective.
How do you know the 997 will be heavier? Why would you expect this model to hold its value beyond the time it takes to deliver all the cars?
Its not any lighter but the C2 is already the lightest of the carrera's so with 345HP...
M030 Sport Suspension/18" wheels...
Now, I don't now about that, the 996 wasn't heavier than the 993, it was actually a bit lighter.
Maybe in Europe, but I doubt it will hold its value in the US.
In reply to to your questions Christer
Donny, can you explain any of the 'fact's above?
'A very very high power to weight ration' - why is that? is it lighter as well?
As the bhp is greater than a normal production carrera's and the c2 is also lighter than the c4 and c4s the power to weight ratio is greater than any other production carrera at this present time.
'Better traction' - how?
The limited-slip differential in the anniversary car provides better traction than in the standard c2
'Better suspension' - why?
The suspension is lowered and firmer providing better roadholding/cornering
How do you know the 997 will be heavier?
Looking back over the history of the automobile industry partic the prestige/sports car industry a new model is normally heavier and has more bhp to counteract that greater weight. With it's power to weight ratio and it's 132 Ibs less weight than the c4 and
275 Ibs
less than the c4s the limited edition c2 should prove to be a somewhat nimbler car than the c4 and new 997's.
Why would you expect this model to hold its value beyond the time it takes to deliver all the cars?
Simply because of it's aestheticism, scarcity and performance which should be noticible particularaly on the track
Hope this answers your questions
Donny
So you what you mean is it will have a very very high power to weight ratio compared to n/a Carreras. Well, that's a little better, but with around 7% more power and no change in the weight that is not a lot. How much do the chrome wheels weigh?
Better traction - so the anniversary model has a different LSD to the standard model? In which way does it differ?
Better suspension - I would agree that a firmer and lower suspension would be better for me, but not necessarily better for all.
Your statement regarding increasing vehicle weight in general in the auto industry is correct, but unfortunately incorrect when it comes to the 911 model. In fact, the 996 was very slightly lighter than the 993 when it was launched. I am not saying that the 997 will be lighter, but it may not be heavier and will for sure have more power anyway.
I would be very wary of buying the last of one model when the new model shows so much promise. Certainly, IMHO it will be no investment.
"So you what you mean is it will have a very very high power to weight ratio compared to n/a Carreras. Well, that's a little better, but with around 7% more power and no change in the weight that is not a lot"
7% on a car which already has an outstanding power to weight ratio is "a lot" imo.
"so the anniversary model has a different LSD to the standard model? In which way does it differ?"
standard models have NO LSD. that's fairly different :-)
"Your statement regarding increasing vehicle weight in general in the auto industry is correct, but unfortunately incorrect when it comes to the 911 model. In fact, the 996 was very slightly lighter than the 993 when it was launched."
the 02 996 weighed like 60 lbs more than the pre-02!
Interesting thread. I haven't made up my mind yet one way or the other.
I believe there have been a lot of "Special Edition" cars in the past, both with or without performance upgrades. Does history support the contention that "Special Edition" means "beter resale"?
If it does, then I guess the extra cost up front is worth it. If it doesn't, you can probably option out a C2 with a power kit and ROW 030 and your favorite color for less money. BTW, don't forget the HP increase comes with NO torque increase, which arguably means not much more true power increase. Ditto with a 997 or a 2004 C2, which most likely will have the LSD if indeed they have worked out how it can co-exist with PSM.
Now, OTOH, the GT3..................
The price of the new spec of the anniversary car brings the price up to �71,500 thats not including the updated throttle ...the limited diff or the turbo style front ...as the cost price is �68,000 I think it's something of a bargain
Donny
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