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It was the US version...

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...if that is so one might wonder how come that change has not been made for every car in the factory.

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I have a saved search, but not many come up and the prices for used are hard to justify when new isn't too much more.

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The thing is that I would like my car behave like his but the problem is the curb that I have to cross every time I take my car out.

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...if that is so one might wonder how come that change has not been made for every car in the factory.

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Changing the shocks to the B6 is a good idea and you could also upgrade the stabilisers to the M030 or GT3 version.

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...if that is so one might wonder how come that change has not been made for every car in the factory.

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Changing the shocks to the B6 is a good idea and you could also upgrade the stabilisers to the M030 or GT3 version.

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I would probably go for a ROW M030 if I had to do it again( and as mentioned, it slightly lowers from stock, but not very much), but I'm very happy with the M030.Ther are plenty of 'used' suspensions on this forum, but even new the prices are reasonable.GL,

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I have a saved search, but not many come up and the prices for used are hard to justify when new isn't too much more.

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It was the US version...

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The thing is that I would like my car behave like his but the problem is the curb that I have to cross every time I take my car out.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sorry about asking a bit dum questions, newbie that I am. I drove a fellow P-car owners 996 carrera 2 today. He has M030 sport suspension installed and his car felt so much better than my own car with original suspension. I have always thought that sport suspension makes a car tuff on the road but M030 was not like that. The feeling was much more "sucked to the road" -kind of a feeling, without being rough at all. Like said I am a newbie and a total stranger when it comes to suspension things. I suppose there is a ton of suspension and sway bar choises out there. The thing is that I would like my car behave like his but the problem is the curb that I have to cross every time I take my car out. I have an aero-kit installed and it is a bit tricky to go over without the cratchy sound from the front lip. For this reason, dropping my car lower is not an option for me. Well, maybe 1/3 of an inch lower would still be manageable. Should I ditch my dreams about sport suspension because of this? Which sport suspension would be good for my car?

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http://www.pca.org/panorama/sample_article_3.html this is a great place to find info... The ROW M030 doesnt lower the car much at all from what I have read....I am looking at getting this as well.

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With the RoW M030 , front axle lowers 2 cm and rear only 1 cm. I got it installed and I consider that is the minimum that a 911 ought to have as stock factory. If you go for the X74 sport suspension lowers 4 cm front and I don't recommend it with you GT3 front bumper. There is another way and probably would be the best thing for you: You can install Bilstein Sport with the stock springs. You'll have a a better handling, no stiffer, improving the performace and upgrading the stock shocks. They are Bilstein B6 Sport front: VN3-5256 rear: BE5-6811 They are a good choice

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If it's only for one specific curb (your driveway) can you build a ramp or fill it w/ cement?

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For the US spec cars, the ROW M030 will lower it a bit more. Mine was lowered about 1 1/2" (almost 4cm) all the way around, and I think that's normal.

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I had M030, I remembered it being very high like stock suspension... why dont you go for that?

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Was it ROW or US... what do you have now? :-) Hi!

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It was the US version... right now I have pss9... Hi

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How much is a ROW M030 suspension going for these days?

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US suspension vs RoW is only 0,5 cm higher In Europe the cost is about 950 € + installation Includes shocks, springs and antiroll bars Ask Carnewall for price

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Since he has a RoW version, the car will drop 1cm all around with the M030 and 30mm all around with the X74. Changing the shocks to the B6 is a good idea and you could also upgrade the stabilisers to the M030 or GT3 version.

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Did I get it right, Bilstein B6 + M030 stabilizers will give me the same ride height than original suspension but better handling when cornering (car goes less slanted) without being rougher on normal driving? Can I rest assured that there will be no problem combining B6 and M030 stabilizers if I order those and take them to the shop for installation? ...if that is so one might wonder how come that change has not been made for every car in the factory. Better handling and no down sides.

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I live in a condo and share the drive way with 20 other families. Also, I have offices in three different towns. All of those locations have parking for me in a carage that is barely accessible with my front bumper. But I just love the darned Aero-Kit!

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Bilstein B6 are not very harsh shocks IMHO the stock suspension is soft and you can upgrade the handling with the Bilstein. You know that sport shocks have a hard compression and extenssion rebound, and anti roll bars make the car less slanting. Nevertheless, you won't notice a hugh differences with them. If you were go for the X74 , PSS9, or sport shock combined to shorter springs, then the differences would be major When I mounted my M030 kit I noticed a hugh upgrade in my C2,and more than a C4 from a friend who did the same All of us know that C2 front axle is more floating than C4, and as I read that yours is a C2, I'm sure that you will improve the handling in the front train and will get a good compromise indeed

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I bought mine from Aaron @ Suncoast Porsche in FL [phone removed]. I received the BEST price and Service from him. I pretty much call him for everything on my P-car now. I paid around $1,100 shipped, back about 6-months ago. Here's the link: (tell him Paul in CA referred you!) http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me...=996Suspension

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Is the ROW M030 worth the money on a C4S? Will it make a significant difference? Or am I pretty much there already?

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C4S models have the M030 as stock factory mounted Do you mean that you have the US version, and go to retrofit with the Row? (sorry but my english sometimes is not good enough)

POST 18Original post

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I bought my MY99 996 with a stock suspension 2 years ago. Last winter I purchased a used US M030 used from a fellow Rennlister, and had it installed in May of '08. It did not lower my Porsche from stock, but the improved handling was immediately obvious. I would probably go for a ROW M030 if I had to do it again( and as mentioned, it slightly lowers from stock, but not very much), but I'm very happy with the M030.Ther are plenty of 'used' suspensions on this forum, but even new the prices are reasonable.GL,

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$500, new on eBay.

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WHAT? Where... I call BS.. show me and I will hit it like (insert cool sounding words here) Ed

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Hard to show, it's on my car. Private party deal from someone in TX who sold his car before installing it.

POST 22Original post

Thats no excuse!, pull it out for me to look at!! DAMN, great deal!! I have a saved search, but not many come up and the prices for used are hard to justify when new isn't too much more. Since I am "looking" I have an eye out for pss9 and maybe the X74 (though I have not researched that one much) Anyhow... We all know the deals come up, and someone gets them... My turn can't be far behind! GJ! Ed

POST 23Original post

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Juaquin, That's exactly what I wanted to know. US M030 is stock on my car. Ok, now that I know that...how do I make it even better?? Retro to ROW? upgrade to Billstein sport shocks?

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According to Suncoast :

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