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YOUR RESEARCHx74 or x73
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about $2K US from Carnewal (delivered in 2 days), $1100 US installed with alignment by independent Porsche mechanic.
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Fully installed with an alignment was about $2,600.
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My service manager said the tech who installed the X74 and the tech that did the alignment both took a test drive and were raving to him about the handling of the car.
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For what it's worth, I just had the ROW M030 on my C2 replaced with the X74 yesterday.
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My service manager said the tech who installed the X74 and the tech that did the alignment both took a test drive and were raving to him about the handling of the car.
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My service manager said the tech who installed the X74 and the tech that did the alignment both took a test drive and were raving to him about the handling of the car.
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X73 is available for C4S and Turbo (different P/N). Here's the best price I've found online.
http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me...de=performance
-Scott
C4s Surgeon. I just bought a new TT and will add the X73 this summer. Let me kwow when you decide on a place to buy and maybe we can get a "2 for" bargain from them. If so, I'll move up my timetable and buy now to save us both some $$. (Better yet, a group buy, but I'm way too lazy to try to organize one).
Guys, I'm going to be getting an X73 option as well, so let's make it a "3 for 1." Where are you guys seeing the best pricing right now?
Also, what are anticipated labor costs for installation?
Rasta, you probably ought to at least try the stock sport suspension first, I'm doing the x73 bc I do alot of tracktime in my car. If you're not driving your car 9/10 at the track w/o an instructor you probably don't need an x73, yet. Get the car first, try it out extensively, then if you still need more go for the x73, will run around 3k installed.
I'll certainly do that C4S Surgeon. I don't anticipate tracking the car at all, but I DO want to reduce that huge fender gap.
Do you think the X73 is overkill? I didn't think a 1.57" and 1.18" drop was over the top, but then again, I haven't modified cars before.
Is the concern with a X73 suspension that it ends up being too harsh a ride, too low for regular street use, or something else?
Many thanks for your thoughts.
Check with Gert at carnewal.com. His prices are good and he ships it to arrive with 2 days. Make sure you get the revised alignment specs as they will be different from stock with the lowered suspension. Gert can send you those also. Fully installed with an alignment was about $2,600.
Do yourself a favor and drive the C4S first, it's sport suspension is very rigid out of the box, my wife won't even ride in it. The x73 would be much firmer, probably not a good choice for you. The C4S sits an inch lower than a std 996 as it is, it is a very low car, I scrape all the time as it is. At any given time your car will be lower than 90% of cars on the road, the 'fender gap ' hype is overated. If you just want to lower it, you can do that with lowering springs, but you may experience bump steer at speed if the shocks bottom out. Porsche also sells a 20mm lowering kit with the RoW components, same price as the x73.
BTW Gert's price on the x73 was 2200euro, suncoast has it for 1800us.
I bought X74 from Gert last Fall for my 40th. As I recall, price was maybe $1,500 or so. Local P dealer hadn't installed one before and charged me $1,300, with the alighment, and that was after a healthy discount. Totally transforms the car. Love it! I could not decide whether X74 or PSE was my best mod...
wknopf, can you elaborate a little more on the advantages of riding on an X74 suspension...and also post some pics of your car lowered. I was leaning towards the X73 kit, but now C4S Surgeon has me thinking whether I should go with RoW M030...
Rasta - I seriously researched suspension for my (former) Targa, and decided to go with X74 (but traded the car first). Here's some good information (I think these were past rennlist posts) on Gert's site:
http://www.carnewal-europe.com/cpx_p96079t.htm
I've more recently seen comments here (do a search) and think more than one person has claimed X74 is a much better ride that M030. I also had a long call with Gert and he convinced me to go with X74.
For what it's worth, I just had the ROW M030 on my C2 replaced with the X74 yesterday. I could immediately feel an improvement in overall ride quality, in my opinion. On some road surfaces (bumps where the asphalt is raised) the X74 feels a tad harsher in the front end but not as harsh in the rear compared to the ROW M030. Handling is definitely improved (again in my opinion and after only my initial 100 miles with the X74). My service manager said the tech who installed the X74 and the tech that did the alignment both took a test drive and were raving to him about the handling of the car. I would highly recommend the X74 over the M030.
I'm running ROWM030 and find it a little harsh. I considered X74, but thought it was just giong to be too low, and even harsher. I'd *really* appreciate a thorough review from you of the X74 being that you came from ROWM030. Thanks much!
Note: it might even warrant its own thread
stiles_s -
I was in the same boat as you regarding trying to make a decision on whether to keep my ROW M030 or go for the X74. The problem is that ride quality is so subjective. The amount of firmness or harshness that is acceptable is totally the perception of each individual. From the posts that I had read on this forum about the X74, the general consensus seemed to be that those who had the X74 found it to be no worse than the M030 and maybe even better than the M030. For me, the selling point was my desire to lower the car more. The ROW M030 on my car did not really lower it (that I could perceive) compared to the standard suspension.
I haven't really had an opportunity to fling the car around yet but I feel the handling is better (a more 'on-rails') type of feeling than the ROW M030. I absolutely believe that the ride quality has improved overall even though this set-up is firmer. I felt that the ROW M030 was very harsh (particularly in the read end) on some road surfaces. I also feel some harshness with the X74 on bad road surfaces, however for me, this is something I can live with for the better handling and the lowered stance of the car (I have not yet scraped anything underneath). I have no regrets getting the X74. For me, it is the best choice.
...digitally impaired so no photos. As far as driving, I don't track the car, but it just seems more "glued" -- and I know that is totally subjective. I like the look more, too. This is how the car should have been sold. I don't scrape on my driveway, but I have scraped on others. Just have to be careful.
Well, I just have the standard front bumper so I have a little more room to maneuver. My driveway is not bad, but the entrance/exit to my dealership is a fairly steep angle and I had no trouble negotiating it. I also had no problems with the speed bumps in the dealer parking lot. However, I have not had the X74 on very long. If you are scraping the front end now, that could be a problem....
Do search and read the threads I posted recently (with pics) on going from US m030 to X74. about $2K US from Carnewal (delivered in 2 days), $1100 US installed with alignment by independent Porsche mechanic. I'm very happy. Been to track once, and better street ride also. Looks good, too.
Are you guys daily-driving your X74 cars? There are a couple nasty parking garages around here that I'm not sure I could navigate. I'm sure tempted. IIRC the X74 springs+struts come preassembled so the swap would probably be super simple.
