fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
20 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCHIs it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Leading reported evidence

Replace on my c2 at 40k

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

Had the RMS replaced on my C2 at 40k.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?
Frequently discussed work

Replace clutch

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

i did change my clutch when engine was out for RMS treatment @ 35.000 klms...even if i knew that there was a little bit more life approx 10.000-15.000 klms more on it.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Suggestion

I would replace the clutch...

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Replace on my c2 at 40k' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace clutch' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 20 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Replace clutch

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

i did change my clutch when engine was out for RMS treatment @ 35.000 klms...even if i knew that there was a little bit more life approx 10.000-15.000 klms more on it.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Suggestion

I would replace the clutch...

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace clutch disk

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Change the clutch disk.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace clutch plate and leave the rest alone

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I'd change the clutch plate and leave the rest alone.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace disk and throw out bearing

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I'd replace the disk and throw out bearing but not the pressure plate.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?
Frequently discussed actions (8)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Replace clutch

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

i did change my clutch when engine was out for RMS treatment @ 35.000 klms...even if i knew that there was a little bit more life approx 10.000-15.000 klms more on it.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Suggestion

I would replace the clutch...

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace clutch disk

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Change the clutch disk.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace clutch plate and leave the rest alone

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I'd change the clutch plate and leave the rest alone.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace disk and throw out bearing

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I'd replace the disk and throw out bearing but not the pressure plate.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace gearbox as well

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

I might have to replace the gearbox as well.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace on my c2 at 40k

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

Had the RMS replaced on my C2 at 40k.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Replace rms would be a good idea

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I'm going to be the minority here and say changing the RMS would be a good idea.

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?

Use universal jig

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Most body shops use a universal jig but that can be up to 3mm out!

Is it worth changing clutch & rms if engine is out?
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

20 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261026T191851Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Getting my car fixed. Had a knock on the rear right side and will need new driveshaft , wheel suspension etc. They are taking the engine out to see its still squared up and I was wondering would it be worth getting a new clutch in and rms? It has 40k and I think its still on first clutch. Also by changing the rms am I tempting fate and will have future rms problems? Cant wait to get my ride back... I miss it soooo much! thanks

POST 2Original post

Nick, when you say knock, I assume you mean smash? Or was the engine knocking? What happened any way? Don't change the RMS uness it is leaking. If it isn't leaking at 40k then you will likely have an RMS trouble free engine. My car has also done 40k and its still on the same clutch. There's plenty of meat on it. I inspected it myself and decided not to change it.

POST 3Original post

i did change my clutch when engine was out for RMS treatment @ 35.000 klms...even if i knew that there was a little bit more life approx 10.000-15.000 klms more on it. i wouldn't touch the rms. it is most likely that you will not have an rms prob...since you've never had one

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks. I took a corner too fast and lost control and banged the kerb. Im having it repaired at an official Porsche approved bodyshop. They have the special 911 plates that allow the jigging to be 100% right. Most body shops use a universal jig but that can be up to 3mm out! The repairs come with a life time guarantee...

POST 5Original post

I'd replace the disk and throw out bearing but not the pressure plate.

POST 6Original post

If it aint broke why fix it. If your RMS does not leak don't touch it, as the replacement might give you trouble. As far as the clutch have a qualified mechanic give you an estimate of how much is left and make your decission from that point of view. If 50% or more don't do it. If it is less like 30% consider it.

POST 7Original post

Don't touch ANYTHING that is not a problem. You will be asking for trouble.

POST 8Original post

Change the clutch disk. Really cheap at this point. If RMS not leaking leave it alone. I'd keep old throwout bearing as well not likely to ever fail if good.

POST 9Original post

If it's a GT3, then it's a completely different animal then the M96 engine and NOT subject to the RMS failures of legend.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Mine is just a C2. I might have to replace the gearbox as well. The shunt on the wheel also seems to have knocked thru and pushed the other rear wheel out of alignment by an inch or so. Any ideas to the durability of the gearbox?

POST 11Original post

no failure issues up to now for gearboxes.....

POST 12Original post

I would replace the clutch... simply for the fact that it will not be too much additional work anyway since the engine is out and the tranny needs to be replaced. This will give you the confidence that you will not have to go back in there in a long time (and incurr additional expenses) - So I suggest new pressure plate, clutch plate, and throw out bearing.

POST 13Original post

I'm going to be the minority here and say changing the RMS would be a good idea. If it hasn't failed yet it will eventually. Some get more mileage than others, but it's going to happen. While the car is apart it should be done. That's a pretty significant amount of labor. I would also recommend changing out your intermediate shaft flange seal. From the look of the car I'm assuming pre '02, so you will need the small depth flange seal which is much easier to install. There are updated bolts from Porsche that help to keep these from leaking. You'll need 4 999-385-004-09's and 3 900-385-275-09's. A lot of "RMS leaks" could possibley be attributed to oil seaping past the threads on the earlier design bolts.

POST 14Original post

Had the RMS replaced on my C2 at 40k. The costs of parts were minimal but labour was a bit on the high side. Hope this bit of info helps.

POST 15Original post

Hey Scouser! Where have ya been mate? Longer time no speak buddy.

POST 16Original post

I'd change the clutch plate and leave the rest alone. I'd even put in a lighter Flywheel if was my car. By the way, why do you have a GT3 badge on your car? It makes you look like a Poser. You see that kind of stuff on BMWs and ricers.

POST 17Original post

Still here DoubleNutz. Just been out on business to Chicago and San Fran. Busy with work and my cars laid up waiting for its gearbox to be rebuilt on Dec 1st. So desparate to get ot back on the road

POST 18Original post

WOOOOE, what happened? I was in Chicago only a few weeks ago and I am just North of you in Portland, Oregon at this moment (If you are still in San Fran). Just got back from Caracas myself working on a pretty big project and leaving for London in a few weeks. Perhaps we can hook up there when I arrive.

POST 19Original post

Well the car runs fine but the gearbox has got noisy so best not use it until it gets fixed. Back in the UK now. When you head over this way we must hook up. PM me when you coming out here and I will arrange to be in London (200 miles from my place but I get down there very often with work). Cheers,

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.