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Those are the original PSE for the 3.4L (you can tell by the smaller bypass pipes), they're installed now.

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Those are the original PSE for the 3.4L (you can tell by the smaller bypass pipes), they're installed now.

PSE Pictures needed

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey, To make a long story short. I have the problem that my PSE mufflers are ratteling. When the Porsche shop took the rearbumber off, this is what they found I sure hope they are not surposed to look like this. Can someone please post a picture of the old type PSE (like mine) where the mufflers are not hammered ? Need those pictures so I can show them to the Porsche shop who did this work. Thanks in advance,

POST 2Original post

Hi Pierre, not sure if this is what your looking for.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Are those the old type mufflers for the 3.4 Liter engine ?? would you pictures from the other side ??

POST 4Original post

Those are the original PSE for the 3.4L (you can tell by the smaller bypass pipes), they're installed now. Tell me where you want me to shoot from and I'll see if I can get a shot or two for you.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sounds super, If you look at my pictures. I would like it from the same angles as there. That means from the opposite side from your first picture.

POST 6Original post

I can't get the same angle without taking my bumper off. Here's from underneath and behind. (I know it looks like I've been 4x4ing)

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ohhh that is dirty driving :-) I could need a picture that proves that the dent i got in my mufflers are not surposed to be there.

POST 8Original post

Do you really need a picture to illustrate that the dent should not be there? It isn't supposed to be there. Trust me. Looks like they had trouble installing (proper fit) and just hammered them to reshape for better fitment. IMHO, very shotty work. I wouldn't be happy.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I can promise you LVDell....I am pissed over the work they have done......but I would like to get some pictures that shows them what it is all surposed to look like.

POST 10Original post

I had the same thing happen to me (can't find the digital pics I took though). Fortunately I notcied BEFORE it was installed. I had the PSE shipped to me from another dealer and installed at the dealer here locally. When I opened up the box the PSE was all dented like it had been abused. They aplogized and sent a new one and took back to the old one. Had I just dropped off the box at the dealer without opening it and had it installed I would have never noticed. The old one looked as if it had been installed (attempted) and the customer didn't want it and it was abused in the process, then just shipped to me. Not happy! But the dealer made good by it and sent me a new. I just hate that they even did it in the first place.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

yeah, I will keep on fighting and hope someone will provide me with some pictures..

POST 12Original post

Viby, without a doubt, your muffs shouldn't be dented up like that. It looks like someone got lazy. It looks like a force job and now your heat shield has also been eaten alive! Oh, THE HORROR! It does, however, appear that you have the 3.4L PSE as pictured in Rob's post. BTW, Rob, sweeeeeeet looking cab! Now, back to the topic. Viby, if you purchased the car with the PSE in its current condition, then I'd try and even up with the folks that sold you the ride. If you purchased an "as is" car, then you're probably out of luck. Anyhow, your muffs are damaged and Suncoast Porsche has a pic of how they're supposed to look: 3.4L PSE Cheers

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey RJFabCab I can�t open the link ? "the page cannor be displayed" Could you post that link again ? I have bought the car from a german Porsche dealer, on my paper it says that it have PSE on it and before I got the car from the shop I paid addition money so they could install the bypass switch.....all that is 8 month ago......and now they rattles like hell.

POST 14Original post

Viby, I corrected the link in the original message. If you still can't view it, then go to: Suncoast Porsche online parts store and search "sport exhaust" to pull up the file on the pre-02 996 PSE. Regarding your rattles, it may be a combination of heat shields and/or faulty internals within the mufflers.

POST 15Original post

Are you sure they're not supposed to be like that. I found these.

POST 16Original post

Ok i just crawled under the car, mine are mashed in exactly like that. In fact one side isn't quite the same as the vacum operated diaphram is right up against the body heat shield. And it has left a nice gouge . On the other side there appears to be more clearance.

POST 17Original post

After hearing all this I would never retrofit a PSE into a car. I wonder if a car is ordered with a pse, do they alter the floorboard at the factory?

POST 18Original post

How manymiles do you guys have on your PSEs? I've got about 12k and it sounds great. I don't recall them being dented either, I'll have to crawl under and have a look.

POST 19Original post

Here's a repost of the link on the Suncoast site: 3.4L PSE Pic TOMDEG, interesting pic. DJ confirms that his muffs are also "dented" in. Hmmm. How about yours, Rob? I never noticed that before, but if you look very closely in the PSE pic linked above, there may be an area of indentation visible. I don't recall the MY02 muffs being "dented", and they're not. I just checked up under my car. Perhaps, this was the most economical route for the manufacturer to take. Just take stock muffs and retrofit the valve assembly with a little metallurgy! DJ, I'm interested in the MY02 PSE sound on your car.

POST 20Original post

I think you are right. They are just retrofitting stock mufflers, how sloppy!

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey RJFabcab. If you take a very close look at the picture in the link it can be difficult to see if there is actually a dent there or not. Try it out. To Tomdeg. I don�t know anymore. I just don�t look right to me. I will wait and see what Porsche finds out.

POST 22Original post

Viby, keep us posted on what you find from Porsche. The '02 PSE is definitely not dented in like in your 3.4L PSE. The '02 valve assembly is actually positioned a bit differently allowing it to stay away from the rear end of the muff. Perhaps Porsche, er Eisenmann , learned from the 3.4 PSE "experience". However, at this point, it sure does look like a retrofit on the valve assembly...

POST 23Original post

The Fabiani siren song is calling my name.....

POST 24Original post

Forgive my ignorance, I always thought the PSE was a real high flow/ high perf muffler. When all it really seems to be is a stock highly restrictive muffler with a halfassed bypass pipe connecting the inlet and outlet. Is that about the size of it?

POST 25Original post

The post 3.4L version of PSE is the only one available now. The new version is now installed on 3.4's as well. I put them on my 3.4L.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Okay. Here is the result. http://www3.us.porsche.com/isapi/eng...at=Performance The link as you can see comes from Porsche Tequipment. As you can all see, this is actually how they make the PSE for the 3.4 liter 996.. Now we can just pray for that it is not done with a hammer. End of story.......

POST 27Original post

I had PSE added to my 02 C4S and it is not dented. for what it's worth.

POST 28Original post

Something like that. You can even go to the plumbing department and make your own. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MakeTrack=true

POST 29Original post

Ah, yes... much better quality than the PSE valves!

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