What do you think??

I am fortunate enough to own 2 911s; an 02 Cab (mine) and a 91 Cab (wife's). I love my 996, but the longer I use her 964, the more like I feel like I'm in a real Porsche. The 91 Cab cost 75K when new in 91 and the 02 Cab cost closer to 90K with options in 02. There is no point in comparing exterior pics because we all know what they look like, but when you compare the interior, especially the dash, the true identity of the 911 shows with the 964. I know it's a "flame producer" l, but the 964 is Porsche Porsche IMHO. What do you think? (They both have some, but tasteful "bling")

Wow I like the new one better...The old one is just that, stale and old...To younger people the new one is much more appealing.... Sorry!

Don, I quite like the older 964/993 interior. It represented the rawness of Porsche and a true sports car. You dont buy a sports car for its interior, you buy it for its performance. As much as I love my current 996, the 993 will always be close to my heart and will always want one regardless. The market these days wants refinement and a glitzy interior - hey im even in that category, at the end of the day though when I driving the 911 I dent think of its interior nor does the interior put that smile on my face. The separated gauges have been with Porsche for a long time the "newer" cluster is a move away from that and maybe what the car used to be. One day I will purchase a 993 again but my current garage is already full with 4 cars and only two drivers.

I had a '90 C4 Cab, and now have a '02 C4 Cab. I had both for a few months, so I can somewhat relate to what Don is saying. However, I sold the 964 and kept the 996.

I've been through 964, 993, Boxster S, 996 and 997S sequentially. I do know the occasional yearning for the earlier rawness and simplicity of 964 and 993 (and the air cooled engine). I will say that I found my 996 far too subdued for my taste; I put PSE on it, an SSK, and had I kept it I was going to put X74 suspension on it. The 996 did not push all the right buttons with me; I think it was just a little too soft for me. The 997S is pushing most of the right buttons (suspension, sound, handling, power, speed, etc.). I even like the interior (better than 996 too). Since its a daily driver, frankly its nice to have some of the updated interior stuff and even the modern toys like the NAV system. But I wish I also had my RS America and my 993 Targa too, they were both keepers.

That's a very sweet duo you have there. But, for one who likes simplicity you sure seem to have a lot of interior aesthetic options on the 996. The completely base interior of the 996 looks much more minimalistic, IMHO. What I don't like about the 996 interior is the plethora of rattles.

I prefer the 964 (for style, sound and feel)....which is why I ended up with a 964Cup.

I agree with you Don. My first 911 was a 964 and that thing left an impression like no other Ive driven. My 996 is nice but I miss that real' Porsche feeling that you get from an aircooled porsche. I will keep my 996 but Im also into the market for another 964 to fill that void.

Totally understand Don. I absolutely love driving my 81 Z that we (my family) bought in the summer of 81. It is absooutely perfect and flawless and with only 60K on the clock and I get more and more enjoyment out of it everyday. BUT.......(and I know my post is comparing apples to oranges) when I get back in the 996 I feel performance that is current not nostalgic.

Aerosmith. When I got the car (full leather) the entire interior..everything was met blue. It looked like a coffin, thus the enhancements. It really looks much more "cosmetically balanced" in person+ I wanted a unique look. At my age, this is my last Porsche

I know the feel LV...I used to putt around in an old Ghia Convertible with a luggage rack and thought I was king of the road. Uh...let's see, that was almost 50 years ago.

I too have 2 911s and I love them both for different reasons. But Porsche needed to get rid of their '96 Mazda steering wheel (in your 964) a long time ago. The 3 spoke is much more fitting for a car of its class. A simple MOMO wheel may be the only mod I do to my '87...

Don, you're last Porsche? PLease, say it aint so my friend! Any thoughts on the 997 dash? I hear it's quiet at least.

Don, I've always liked my Porsches completely stock, the way the designers intended. Seems that with every model change from the 356 to 997, with few exceptions i.e., the front & rear bumpers of the 964, the lack of muscularity and the new "eyes" of the 996, I've loved them all and grown to appreciate their differences. I do have my favorites of the models I've had. Most recently '98 993 CS2, '88 Commemerative Edition Carrera Cabriolet, & my little sweetie a '69 911T. My newest, a '99 996 Coupe is growing on me but damn I hate the all the plastic & the gauges!

I'm surprised at the comment on the rattles in the 996. My 00 has 47k and the only noise I have is some wind noise that I think is a bit out of line, particulalry at cruising speeds. I've yet to hear any rattles from the dash or interior parts. I suppose I will at some point. Could it be that rattles are caused by taking them apart for one reason or another?

aero smith, 997 dash is NOT quiet. I drove about 6 of them. EVERYONE of them had squeaks.

964 Don. IMO It's a real Porsche. Iv'e had both a 912 and a 964 and while my current 996 has more grunt the 964 is a car I will never get out of my system. Feel more in touch with the road and the sound of that air cooled engine is awsome. In fact, I am looking to get out of modern Porsche cars altogether. I am looking at the following car. But before you all flame me about the colour, If I get it it will be painted Guards red by Porsche AG in Germany. I am talking with the dealer on it now. What do you think......and look at the history behind it will ya!!! http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...00502177895259

I seem to be in the opposite camp. I started driving 911s back in the 70s, and I find the newest iteration (like my '04 C4S Cab) to be the tightest and best-manufactured of all. There are zero rattles (perhaps because of the full leather interior), and I recall selling my 993 Targa after 9 months because I couldn't deal with the rattles from the glass roof. (A year later I bought another one, and, sure enough, it deveolped the same problems.) The interior is finally approaching what a car in this price range should have--but still far from other high end sports cars. That said, the performance and dependability is well worth the price of admission. Call me a sissy, but I like the security of 4 wheel drive and PSM! The earlier 911s, including the 993 were a handful to control in borderline situations (never mind the early Turbos!) Of course, if I tracked the car, I would go for a GT3.

Yesterday I came to appreciate my C4S more than ever. Sheet ice for my weekly 60 mi commute to a small town in Wy was the worst I have ever seen in 26 years of doing it. Over 30 cars off the road and my C4S with Perelli Winter Sports never waivered, even at 70+. I constantly slowed down expecting trouble and had none. For a daily driver you can"t do better than the new technology in the 996 or 997. For those who just need weekend fun and older aethetics of raw power and driving excitement the 964 or better yet the 993 are the tickets. But I love my care and am amazed at its combined athleticism and safety. Will

Wyo996, any probs with the charger yet? Almost pulled the trigger a couple of times, still undecided.

If true, that tidbit of information should be very good for my bank account. The solid new dash of the 997 has been the main attractant for me.

Squeaks. Who cares just drive

Aerosmith said, "Don, you're last Porsche? PLease, say it aint so my friend! Any thoughts on the 997 dash? I hear it's quiet at least." __________________ At 68 I'm getting too old to get another one. If we move to FL permanently I may sell both and pick up a 98 Cab and let it go at that. I'd love to fool around with a 73S, but it would be too costly to maintain. Won't ever be w/o a Pcar tho. The 997 doesn't impress me at all. Porsche is losing it's original identity in order to appeal to a mass market. Pretty soon you won't be able to identify a Porsche from any other sports car...and the cost is becoming prohibitive anyway. The worst mistake I ever made was selling my silver 94 Speedster (pics on signature link).

don, 68 is young. paul newman still races at 77!

Wyo996 - Been down that road by Windland - too many times! Seen too many cars off the road! Too many HP! (#1 speedtrap in the State) - But you do have a Great little Cafe - Anybody on their way up I-25 make sure to stop at the 'Wheatland Cafe"

Driving her every single day my friend.