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YOUR RESEARCHEd's next car!
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Yeah, I know, but there is probably a lot of truth to it!
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I want to do a few things and I am on the fence about tearing into this car as some people in the AC community might consider it defacing a clean unmolested example.
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I want to do a few things and I am on the fence about tearing into this car as some people in the AC community might consider it defacing a clean unmolested example.
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so I dont do anything and just take care of it, repair, maintenance ect.
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in Seattle cars run a little more $$$ so I am priced high on purpose
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again, this is just testing the waters and may not come to pass...
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I want to do a few things and I am on the fence about tearing into this car as some people in the AC community might consider it defacing a clean unmolested example.
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Looking thru the F/S section this morning, our dear friend Ed has decided to sell the 'Air Sucker'. I completely understand his reasoning after reading the ad.
I would like to know what 'we' think his next car will be.
Any ideas? Here is my thought.....
Pros:
lightweight
consumable
suspension lowered.
probably good on gas mileage. can afford race gas on this car.
you probably will feel the extra speed better than any pcar...
Cons:
What is it?
Gotta go down hill to go fast.
yes -
I want to do a few things and I am on the fence about tearing into this car as some people in the AC community might consider it defacing a clean unmolested example. Not saying I will sell, but if someone is looking I would - then look for one with "issues" and not get all bent outta chape when I molest it...as the case were...love this car, would not tear it apart like that because I would have to put it all back and things like carpet are easy, the door innerds, sunroof, A/C and alike are a bit more than I want to mess with on one that works.
I dont know, we'll see....I would kind of like to build my own motor too (with help so I do it right)
I understand. I wrestled with that and my 944 (now track car). it does seem a shame to start with a nice car... but, on the other hand,
you
are still enjoying it - and it's usually cheaper / easier than starting with a project.
Then:
Now:
WOW, I didn't know that you were considering selling your car.
Oh, and if you end up building your own engine..... hire someone else to procure the parts!
really has crossed my mind....but I want a P-car in the end.
I am not fast, in fact I am kinda slow so its not speed, its more the "doing" that interests me right now. I have my hands on these cars all the time and I want to "do something" thats a dangerous place to be in without a plan on limited budget... so I dont do anything and just take care of it, repair, maintenance ect. which is great and rewarding in its own way. Dont get me wrong... I could keep this car the way it is and still not drive it to its limit. (BTW wanting to "do something" could end with a garage full of stuff not designed for your car... that is why I am NOT just "doing stuff" - this time
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Good for you Ed, find something that rewards your desire to always try to make it better, lighter, more power. What do your boys think if you sell the AC 911 you currently own?
I didnt tell the wife and kids...
I have seen a couple cars I liked and have a friend with a 69' who might consider selling it to me.. again, this is just testing the waters and may not come to pass...
and I feel bad for spilling AC dribble all over the H2O board..... KINDA
Ed, since you've been in the air-cooled fray, have you thought about a track prepared 914? Super rewarding to drive. Of course you're welcome to come back to the water-cooled side with a spec boxster.
That was a low-mileage, one-owner car when I got it. Now it's a high mileage, two-owner car!
Where are these spec Miatas "known" to do better times than Pcars? And what Pcars are slower? I could see a Miata beating up an air cooled '86 911, but not much else.
-td
At Lime Rock (a pretty small and technical track) the spec miatas are faster than a spec 944 - they weigh so much less. I don't know about a larger track like Watkins Glen, though... the 944s do have the HP advantage.
Ed... GLWTS, good to know that you will be a -pcar owner again, enjoy the hell out of the SC in the mean time. Its all part of the circle of ownership. Some circles, are just bigger than others.... its all good!
Just enjoy it.. A 165K mile car isn't exactly "rare"... and no one says you can't keep it looking good, even if you feel like you are "tearing it up".
The added benefit is you already own the car.. so you can tear into it now. No waiting.. It could be weeks/months before you sell your car (imho, the price is high) and it could be even longer for you to find a "suitable" replacement.
just go for it!
yes the price is high and yes its a higher milage car - realisticly if I had an offer of about $16.5 + would take it home... but that is my asking and we'll see if anyone takes the bait... in Seattle cars run a little more $$$ so I am priced high on purpose
Kinda like the idea of a 914 racer. Inexpensive........change it to 914-6 and its a Go-kart. Had I developed a brain in my twenties I would have kept my 914 2L and done exactly that.
Decide up front if you want a 4 or a six.
Six motors - $2500-$15K (depending on build)
Conversion parts - motor mount, oil tank are very expensive nowadays;
Brake upgrades; suspension upgrades; Flares (paint) and larger wheels too. By that point you'll want a stiffening kit and/or a cage and seat/harnesses. Figure another $5-10K for all that. Shop rates? yikes!
Even a "simple" 4 to 6 conversion will run at least $5k but realistically twice that.
Big bore 4's (say 140-170hp) are $5-10K propositions (see jake raby for more)
Solid 914s are harder to find. Decent drivers are at least $5-7K imho.
I love 914s but you are much better either 1) buying some elses finished product or 2) locating a 2.5l boxster and turning it into a racercar slowly.
Ed:
I am a new poster, so I am not privy to all your history. IMHO the "wisdom" seems to be, if you want a modified car, buy one that someone else has spent the $$$$ on. You will save plenty. You sound like someone who enjoys the whole mod process, by doing it yourself. My .02, keep your car so you don't take the sales hit (you already love it)..the money you get won't get you were you want to go with the "new" replacement....so, modify your existing car to you hearts (and wallets) content, drive the hell out of it.....then return it back to stock when you are done and sell the bit and pieces..that would seem to me to keep your interest peeked for quite some time.
Sell the SC and just get a track car--not one you can convert -- but an already stripped car, ready, with trailer. You know you want to. Then you can focus on refinements rather than doing the whole job. It will cost less and get you on the track faster. Most gear sets that people have would let you even autocross it. You already have the tow vehicle.
The only time you can really see what these cars will do is on a track anyway. Driving on public roads may be mildly entertaining, but you can have the hottest car and still have to ride behind a minivan/old Buick.
A dedicated track car may be safer to drive at speed than something that was intended to drive on the street.
Waiting just means you'll be older when you do it. You're not doing it for a living, so you can get something that will be fun and reasonable to service.
Hey Ed, I think you car "canvas" is wide open for you to choose whatever model Porsche you want to buy. Don't forget that you probably already have 80% of the parts you will need to mod it, no matter which model you choose!
Log into PCA and click the MART button on top and look at race cars for sale or just plain janes. Here's a deal except for you'll end up towing also. Think of all the broke cars you could trailer
http://www.pca.org/Default.aspx?tabi...85&parentId=11
Especially when they discover a 993 engine, M030 suspension......and a VW Thing just blew them off the track.
Power to weight....power to weight....power to weight....
(well ok, above 100mph aerodymanics more exotic than a brick, help)
Yeah...I know it's a Porsche Forum. But for a dedicated track car, I'd love to try a Caterham RS 500 Superlight or CSR Superlight (0-60 in under 3 seconds....oh baby).
A modded 914-6 might be pretty darn nice as well (as long as you feel like batman to hang from the rafters to work on the engine).
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