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I have both as well (SmartTop installed last year, RemoteTop a month or so ago).
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Unfortunately we found out later that this design was not compatible with the 2004 model (almost everything changed) so we had to change the design and ended up with one that is compatible to all 996's, but gives a short beep (top not in end-position warning) on the pre-2002 models (to be more precise, all models with mechanical trunk-release levers).
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Beginning with 2002 Porsche changed the central locking and alarm control unit (the one under the driver's seat) along with some wiring changes.
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Unfortunately we found out later that this design was not compatible with the 2004 model (almost everything changed) so we had to change the design and ended up with one that is compatible to all 996's, but gives a short beep (top not in end-position warning) on the pre-2002 models (to be more precise, all models with mechanical trunk-release levers).
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Unfortunately we found out later that this design was not compatible with the 2004 model (almost everything changed) so we had to change the design and ended up with one that is compatible to all 996's, but gives a short beep (top not in end-position warning) on the pre-2002 models (to be more precise, all models with mechanical trunk-release levers).
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Last fall I bought the SmartTop through the Rennlist Sponsership, paid $269.00 plus shipping (goes for $319.00 now) and installed it in Sept. Loved the one touch up& down and the ability to open and lcose the top while moving. Thought It was a great deal and a wonderfull improvement to the car.
In Nov. they began to advertise the Remote top. When they first became available they put a few on ebay, and at least one with no reserve, I picked it up for #130.50 plus $10.00 shipping, unbelieveable price, they are going for $299.00 now. Just installed it last weekend, and it is even better than the SmartTop. Great to be able to open and close the top with the remote, what a convenience. Jump out of the car and push the button on the key, top closes and car locks by itself. Puch the button walking up to the car and by the time your are sitting in the car the top is down. A few other features like auto locking are also included.
I highly recommend both products if you have a cab. Even at the current prices they are great additions to cabs.
I love my remote top and smart top...had to send both back, because they mall functioned, but the company is great and wiithin a week I had both products back...it is the greatest thing that you can get out of the car and close the top while walking away
.....knowing that if anybody tries to get into the car they will get hurt!!! when the top is still closing!!
I installed both items last weekend. Love them! Took no time at all to install and it is so nice not having to sit in the car with the e-brake up and hold that little button down for the whole process.
The only reason I would NOT get the remote top it b/c personally I would have to make sure the doors locks insterad of just walking away while the top closes and belived they did lock on faith. Instead, I just hit the auto close smart top button as I am pulling into a space and I am good to go by the time I get out of the car.
Dell,
When the top is closed via the Remote Top, The door lock button on the key is what triggers the process. Push the lock button as usual to begin the normal locking operation. I hear the locks click, see the double flash of the park lights, and then .... and only then, does the top start up, followed by window closing. When you see the top operation begin, then you release the button.
Now, unless you try the door handle every time after pushing the lock button on your key (I certainly don't .... though I do watch for the lights to flash), then this is the exact same process. For me, pulling on the door handle every time (one would have to check both doors, I guess, to be sure) .... would significantly devalue the ability to remote lock in the first place.
Actual testimonial: last week we were at a friend's home for a party, parked in his driveway. Wife notices lightening, indicating an approaching storm. 993 Turbo and Corvette drivers go out to raise windows. Me, standing on the front porch jawing with my buds ... I pull out my key and "click": the top goes up on my car, 20 or so feet away and the windows slide on up.
Call me a kid, but what a rush
Nice Kim. You gotta love that. Could you keep from smiling as you were doing it?
I'm not worried about the doors locking, that is how it was designed to work. Checked it the first time, no need to check it again.
When I hit the remote and the process starts, my horn makes a short beep. I believe it is because the interior infra reds aren't activated since the top was down. Does yours do this too?
Heeee Dell...don't you think I checked this?? You are not they only smart puppy on this site
( I AM JOKING!!! I know I have to mention this otherwise you are going to kill me!!
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When you close the roof with the smart remote....the door lock and you will hear a short honk to make you aware of the fact that something is still open (which is the roof..closing)
I understand your concern Dell, but it is nice to open the roof with something in your hands that you want to put on the backseat....or to close the car when you forgot to do so when driving into a parking space....just my 2cents
Troy,
The short beep you hear upon locking is the car's signal that one of the items monitored by the security system is NOT closed completely. To my knowledge, these items include:
doors
hood
trunk
interior oddments compartment (the most common culprit)
radio (not seated in the rack).
Locking (when all is well) does not trigger this warning beep simply because the top is down.
I have never gotten a beep when using the Remote Top to close my top ... at least not one based upon the top's normal operation. In my owner's manual, the top mechanism is not one of the items listed as triggering this warning beep.
Better check for something open.
I just went and played with it. Set alarm on/off with everything up and closed, no horn beep. Put the top down, then used Remote key to arm and put up top. Locks went down, top started going up and then short horn beep. Same as it has done. I think's it the interior infra red's not being activated because the top is down or in motion. When the top is down and I leave it down, but set the alarm, I don't get a beep. Hmm... I'll check owner's manual tonight. Maybe it has to do with changes they made in the chip?
Totally understand what y'all are saying but (1) I think it is overkill if you have the smart top and (2) I am very happy with pressing the auto top close when pulling into my garage or a parking spot or just the opposite when exiting. To each his own.
I use both regularly. Just tonight my wife and I were coming back from dinner and the top was down. Got a little chilly so as we were crusing to a red light I used the smart top. Light turned green before we got to it, so never had to stop. If I didn't have the smart top I would have had to pull over, complete stop, engage the e-brake, hold the button, etc. What a pain.
Totally agree. I would probably use the remote top more but I got one of the first smart tops before the remote top was even on the radar so I will just stick with it. I still love it!
I think it fits on a 997 as well...just email them and ask...they are very helpful....I think that you don't need the smart top on uout 997, because you can open and close the top while moving...the remote top however is a great option to have.
Deven - a month or two ago, Wilhelmy posted a threay on the 997 Forum about the smart or remote top for the 997. I believe it is a different unit than the 996 because if the differences in the base OEM functionality of the 997 versus the 996. A quick search on "Wilhelmy" in the 997 Forum shuld get you the results very quickly.
Just go straight to the horse's mouth. Their website gives a full description of their new 997 Cab product, just being introduced and quite pricey. It appears to have a good many programmable options.
997 SmartTop
Thanks for the replys and the link (I did not know who was making the unit). The 997 unit does seem to do many things, but is a little pricier than the units for the 996. The thing that I will like as well is the audible chirp when locking/unlocking the car, which along with the many other features may be worth the $650 or so.
It is about the same price as the 996...because the one unit does the same as the 2 units for the 996...smart top and smart remote in one!~!!
Maybe you should try to setup a group buy on the 997 forum and get a discount!!
Troy: The short beep when locking the 996 with the remotetop only appears on models 1998 - 2001. Beginning with 2002 Porsche changed the central locking and alarm control unit (the one under the driver's seat) along with some wiring changes. They do not monitor the top status anymore, that is the reason some of you may have a short beep (pre 2002 models) because the top is not in one of the end-positions. The remotetop will however still arm the full alarm system by "re-arming" it once top and windows are fully closed.
Nicolaasdb: You got it completely right, the smarttop for 997 is basically smarttop+remotetop in one, plus a few more features. It's much more complicated (can-bus) and took considerably more time and cost to develop. We would of course be happy to offer you guys a great rennlist group discount on top of the already reduced introductory price.
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Stefan Wilhelmy
Stefan,
First, thanks for the great products. I was an early adopter of both for my 2000 Cab. I believe they are a significant addition to my enjoyment of the car.
Secondly, I guess I have some sort of hybrid year model .... or something is wrong in my car .... for my 2000 has never given the short beep when closing top / locking car with the Remote Top.
Kim,
You may have one of our first remotetops, which have a special circuit to take care of the issue. Unfortunately we found out later that this design was not compatible with the 2004 model (almost everything changed) so we had to change the design and ended up with one that is compatible to all 996's, but gives a short beep (top not in end-position warning) on the pre-2002 models (to be more precise, all models with mechanical trunk-release levers).
On models 2002 and later, Porsche omitted the signal to the alarm unit completely, so on these models the alarm system does not know anything about the top's position.
Thanks all for the positive feedback!
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Stefan Wilhelmy
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