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i doubt his assurance on the warranty issue is binding on Porsche.
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i wish i had done a baseline run before the mods but there's no way i'm gonna take all the stuff off to do it
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what may lower your HP # is the 19" rims your running with...
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this thing is nice piece of kit. the main intake tube seems to be of cast aluminum and nicely krinkle coated. it was soo easy to install took about 20 minutes. the roto molded airbox is ok too but i would've been really sweet if it were carbon
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you get more of a growl from the intake and an absolute wail at WOT. it's spine tingling
. it's worth soooooo much more than the faspeed kit.
i don't know if it's the placebo effect but the intake coupled with the GIAC tuning has given my 996 quite a boost at 4000+ rpms.
i think all the mods are coming together now and working well. time for a dyno run or maybe i should wait till after the 200 cell cats and fvd exhaust
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the butt dyno tells me that there is actually a HP difference with the EVO where the fabspeed is just throttle response. EVO claims 25HP with tthe flash. i can't give you a definitive answer on that one though. i can really feel the difference with the GIAC flash. it just sings.
it's all about air velocity. fast in fast out.
Carlos, I'd love to see dyno numbers on that setup; no doubt your car is faster... that cold air kit looks amazing!
by the way... you aren't getting rid of the PSE for the FVD exhaust are you?
Peter
ya, once i get everything in order i'll go for a dyno run. i wish i had done a baseline run before the mods but there's no way i'm gonna take all the stuff off to do it
still wavering on the fvd exhaust. hmmm...... what next, exhaust or race seats/gt3 seats or 200 cel cats or.........
Carlos,
don't bother taking all the stuff off - PITA
the FVD certainly doesn't sound better than PSE in my opinion and exhaust don't give you squat for hp... maybe 4 at most... I'd gor the sound... PSE is already efficient..
with your mods, headers, chip and all the rest I would guess you'd be making about 275HP at the wheels which is pretty good! what may lower your HP # is the 19" rims your running with... more rotational mass but not by much...
re: fvd exhaust.. really? i've been told that it sounds awsome. what i wanted was an exhaust that was louder and lighter than the PSE yet quieter than bypass pipes. tried GHL loud but it didn't cut it. one thing about the GHL, i found that it helped the top end. i'm hoping a freer flowing exhaust like the FVD will get the same results.
275 at the wheels? i was hoping for 280~290
. what's the loss through driveline transferrance anyway, 15% 20%?
i'll be sure to put my champion monolite 18's on when i go for the dyno run
Karlooz,
I do not mean this as a criticism in any way, but why all the mods? Are you feeling a deficiency at the track? Do you track your car at all? Or is it just the appeal of monkeying around with new toys (which I understand)?
TD in DC
no criticism taken. i love to mod, period. it's fun and may help out on the track when i finally get on the track (i was bumped from the last PCA DE,
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speaking of track that will be the next thing, harness bars!
Your setup will definitely benefit from a free-er flowing exhaust, FVD/Fab/RUF/GHL...whatever, with that nice looking intake. PSE doesn't flow any more than stock, it's just louder. In that sense it's just as effecient as the std exhaust ...I guess.
Our Export Exhaust (I am assuming thats what you ordered) is louder and has a deeper growl than PSE. Both are great exhausts, and I agree none will give you HP so get the sound you want!
Intake looks great as well!!
Evan
This seems like a really awesome mod.
I was wondering, has it been anyone's experience that these type of kits may nullify Porsche's factory warranty? (Hate to screw up my warranty in the frst year)
Carlos,
280-290... that's a lot even with all the mods... definitely use the 18" RG5 Monolite for testing... they are the lightest around... and if you don't want them I'll take them off your hands!
depends what kind of dyno you test on... I'd try to use a standard one (whatever standard is) something that has recored a 996 @ 255 WHP cause thats' where its at.
look forward to seeing your results.
P.
hey pete,
ya, maybe wishful thinking (280~290HP).
thx
but i'm holding on the the champions as my track set. just bought new dunlop r compound tires for cheap at the tire rack. didn't bother having them shaved. i figure i need as much tire depth as possible since i will be driving to the tracks on them (got a hitch but no trailer yet)
who knows... you may just hit the 280 mark cause you have the headers + light flywheel... I wouldn't change the exhaust though... I know here in Canada we have 94 octane and GIAC makes a 93 octane specific program.. that may give you another 5 hp... actually from discussions with people who have modded I think you will be hitting 280HP with your mods... that cold air mod will surely put you over the top...looks like it does its job... the stock airbox gets hot too easily... I'm sure your car is very quick with all thes mods!
P.
Carlos,
Great mod. Congrats and thanks for the pix. I want to get this too and am really heartened by your comment that it was easy to install in 20 minutes. Like Dr.Peter above, I am still in warranty on mine so getting this thing out and putting the stock airbox back in before going to the dealer for any warranty work is key. So my questions are:
1.) Did Evo send along detailed installation instructions?
2.) Are any special tools required?
3.) I'm not a tinkerer...ie unskilled. Are there any special "watch-outs" that require special care lest you break something that'll cost a fortune to replace?
Any details would be appreciated. Thanks!
1. no, EVO did not enclose ANY instructions. quite surprising since i bought an evo intake for my former boxster which included very detailed instructions but that install took a few hours and lots of lost skin! once you take a look around the engine bay to see what is going on, you will soon realize that there' nothin to it.
2. EVO did include a security torx key to remove the MAF from the stock air box. be careful once the MAF is out. all you need is a metric socket set and socket wrench and a flat blade screw driver. there is only one bolt (13mm hex, i think) which holds the actual box onto the car. the screw driver is for the hose removal.
3. no special tricks. very straightforward.
Got an answer from Evo's President;
"Hello Dr. ,Thank you for your e-mail in interest in our products. Our V-Flow air induction system is applicable to your X51 3.6L 996. We have tested them on all of the 996's as well as the 997's including the 3.8L. There are gains of 8-12 HP/TQ on all of the cars. It will not void your warranty. Feel free to contact me if you have any question or would like more detailed information.
Best Regards, Todd Zuccone"
i doubt his assurance on the warranty issue is binding on Porsche.
Reading the warranty book, imo this could be grounds for Porsche to balk: at minimum it gives them leverage.
Wow! $600 bones? What would a group buy net price-wise? I just find it hard to justify $600 for minimal gain in power AND sound. With PSE on the car I really don't need the sound increase and the HP is marginal. Any insight?
LVDell,
I hear you about the price to performance trade off... but you have to keep in mind that getting horsepower from a NA engine is gonna be pricey... 8 HP and better breathability and slightly better torque ain't bad - especially in concert with a chip.
