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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I found this on another forum. Did the search here and could not find any reference to it. It is supposed to avoid oil starvation. Kit is around USD 130. Anyone seen it before? See pic. Is it any good?

POST 2Original post

Who's offering it? Is that the Brey Krause version? More info please!! Chad

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was informed that it is a Porsche original part. I will call them here (Sweden) tomorrow, doublecheck and get you all the part#.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

In my search for more info, i took the liberty to send him a request for info and a that pic

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OK. Here it goes. The mechanic that mounted it said it the same part for Boxster and just a bolt on kit. The part# is 99610798800. I will call Porsche center tomorrow to find out what it is exactly. If one of you has access to part# catalogues before that...

POST 9Original post

No schit!! I'll check the PET when I get home. Interesting. Chad

POST 10Original post

That item is part of the X51 kit for the 3.4 liter cars. That kit was only sold in RoW. It may help, but a better solution is the complete oiling kit which includes a reworked cylinder head (bank 4-6), an additional dual chamber suction pump and return tube.

POST 11Original post

Based upon the PET that I have, that is a different oil pan as well. Visually speaking, the castings are different. Any info? Chad

POST 12Original post

CONFIRMED: This is the oil pan part to the 996 3.4L X51 engine upgrade package. Upon searching the PET, it is described as the "bulkhead". Which shown here is attached to the oil pan. Note the one-way baffles on each side. Good find. Chad

POST 14Original post

No. It is specifically for the 3.4L X51 powerkit. Note the detail on the bottom right of the PET / Repair manual listing page. EDIT: More info... Here's what I came up with on the oil pan baffle. It is in fact part of the X51 RoW Powerkit for the 3.4L motor. In addition to the oil pan baffle / bulkhead there are more oil mods on the X51. Those include a new dual stage pickup and a line to the 4&6th cylinders. Installation of the line to the cylinders requires machining. ($$$$ Ka-ching!) Based upon the information available, these apparently add more oil to the updated cams and valves on the X51 kit. This makes sense, given the uprated hp and higher rev limit. Now�after researching some info on my old BMW M3, (which has a similar problem with oil starvation, etc.), the BMW Motorsports performance baffled oil pan is a VERY similar solution to this one. More (or larger baffles) with one-way inlets. I am pretty confident that using this in conjunction with the deeper sump oil pan kit from Brey Krause (if it works) will at the very least significantly reduce any worry on oil starvation issues on the track. Please keep in mind, I will have to test my theory on this. I plan to order the parts and see what I find. Best price found on the oil pan bulkhead from Sunset Porsche is $100 or so. Cool. I love this car Chad

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the pic Chad. I will put one in at the next scheduled service.

POST 16Original post

Sorry Loren...I didn't mean to repeat what you wrote. I missed your post. C.

POST 17Original post

My understanding is that during hard cornering (with racing tires) oil can get trapped in the cylinder bank (4,5,6) and it is possible to have oil starvation occur because there is not enough oil at the main pickup. The kit is intended to return the oil to sump that gets trapped in the cylinder bank (4,5,6). So, as I said before the baffle alone may help some - but it won't solve the problem of the oil trapped in the cylinder bank.

POST 18Original post

Interesting. Good stuff. Does that return tube have suction from the oil pump on it? Is this as much of a P.I.T.A as is sounds? Now...of course, no one that I can think has had this problem. Do you know of any who have done track duty have this issue? Chad

POST 19Original post

I'm pretty sure that Porsche MotorSports still sells the oil return upgrade kit. As I recall you ship then your 4,5,6 cylinder head and they sent you one that's already modified (exchange basis). You don't get the whole X51 kit but I think the price is much less than the X51 kit price of $11,000.

POST 20Original post

Any idea what the going rate is? I am willing to bet it is somewhere in the vicinity of pure gold? Chad

POST 21Original post

My dealer quoted me on the order of $1800 for the oiling kit, which seemed a little low to me.

POST 22Original post

You ship your 4-6 cam cover and they will machine it for you and send it back. The machine work itself is pretty simple. There is no exchange as the heads and cam covers are matched parts.

POST 23Original post

Why not just get your cam cover machined locally at a good race machine shop, save some $$. as Doug said the machine work involves the cam cover, not the cylinder head. Chad, you're near St.Louis, go to Kirn Racing Engines or Ron's Heads in St.Charles. They do major racing machine work(ie NASCAR) and can easily machine your parts at a reasonable price. Chris

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