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as it was the only empty place left to get a decent picture of all three vehicles..
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I just installed the prefacelift gt3 lip (aero kit chin spoiler) on my 99 996.
Replace almost everything in the car multiple times
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but now that i've replaced almost everything in the car multiple times..
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Porsche, themselves, realized that the 99-01s were inclined to lift at the front, and changed the bumper themselves for 02, so I don't think I'd be in trouble with a small splitter-type solution, or an 02-style bumper that accommodated my headlights.
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Porsche, themselves, realized that the 99-01s were inclined to lift at the front, and changed the bumper themselves for 02, so I don't think I'd be in trouble with a small splitter-type solution, or an 02-style bumper that accommodated my headlights.
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Anyone have experience with adding a front lip onto a stock bumper rather than changing out the bumper alltogether? I'm about to add side skirts to my '00 Cab and need to do something to "even out" the look on the front. I've been checking out the Getty Design front Aero Splitter and it looks like it would accomplish what I'm looking to do. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Nick
Haven't yet. Going to go with the Aero I (I think that's what it's called) version. Why, any better options if I go with a different skirt? I probably won't order until next week or so.
Aero I kit looks dated.... Aero II looks a lot sharper... especially with the splitter your going to put on... just my opinion since I saw a cab done exactly that way... wow! what a difference.
unfortunately I don't have a pic... but I'll tell you the story... I was riding my bike in the summer time and I saw a cab with the mods I speak of... well I followed this guy for about 3 miles until I finally caught up to him and told him what a great looking car he had... he pulled over and he told me all about it... the Aero I skirts don't look that bad ... I like the Aero II skirts because they have a "sharper" edge... go to the porsche dealership when you get a chance and see if there are any cars with the new aero II skirts and park next to it...
I've been planning to the the AERO II kit for the longest time but nobody here in Toronto could find me the "splitter"... so thx for posting that...
its a good look and you don't have to change the rear bumper at all and it still blends in quite nicely...
Pete- there are 2 splitters for the fron that are available from Getty. The one that I posted gives a "GT3" look. The other is the Folded Splitter below... Are you sure that the one that looked so good with Aero II was the first?
Don't think the Aero II skirts will look good with that smooth front bumper/splitter. But again, this is a too each his own thing as Pete has pointed out his pref for the Aero II's. Have to agree with him with regards to their sharp edge. Much prefer that line but it does not go with the prefacelift aero bumper.
I think aero I looks better on the 99-01 IMHO.. reason being the 02+ rear bumper plays a big factor.. on the 02 facelift.. the sideskirts on the aero 2 match the more "dramatic" rear bumper lines.. the 99-01 is "smooth" on the rear bumper, which corresponds nicely with aero I sideskirts.... i suppose it's a matter of preference. here's my 99.. with aero I side skirts and i wouldn't have it any other way...
its the one you posted.... its a lot sharper than the plain splitter and because of the edges on this one would make a perfect match with the AERO II skirts... don't worry about the rear bumper... it still looks good with the AERO II skirts... the diff is night and day IMO.
now what would look wierd is just the AERO II *without* the front splitter... that looks a little funny... that splitter is a must with AERO II.
here's the rest of the pic.. only the porsche is infront of the dumpster... i figured it was only proper considering how i've felt at times where it belonged after the $47,000 in repair bills.. <g>
disclaimer: i am simply indicating this statement about my "porsche" if i didn't think porsches were nice cars, i wouldn't still have it.. (running away now)
Bob, why is it that you can never stop reminding the board about the alleged $47K in bills? As well, why is it that you can afford $47K in bills and nothing on a camera? Never seen a quality pic from you.
LV,
someone commented on why the porsche was parked outside of a dumpster, and i made a comment on why it was parked there... if you spent that much on a car in repair bills, you wouldn't exactly be too thrilled with the vehicle either i'd think.. and it's not alleged.. remember i did post the receipts? ..regardless.. i hope these pictures satisfy you
(yes i know my bumper is screwed up on the left hand side and missing the sidemarker.. having a low car downtown isn't always the smartest idea <g> currently being fixed)
and maybe i can't take a good picture of the porsche.. but i think i took an OK picture of the benz..
regardless, i didn't get these cars by beng a photographer.. which is pretty apparent.. <g> i've taken about 10 pictures in the past 10 years..
btw: the homeless people in the pictures weren't models
of course they decided to sit down and watch me take pictures infront of my attempt at an "industrial" backdrop photoshoot attempt.. having a substational amount of money in my wallet at the time didn't exactly put me at ease for wanting to stick around too long and "why" i moved the porsche infront of the dumpster.. as it was the only empty place left to get a decent picture of all three vehicles..
happy now? i don't know why i had to explain myself... it was one picture.. didn't realize some people can be so **** about a backdrop or the quality of a picture..
anyways, i'm not gonna hijack this guy's post any longer about this subject... we're all porsche owners, and we own them for a reason.. i really don't see the need to criticize other people and or their vehicles publicly.. anyways, i'm off to dinner.. enjoy the night all :>
OK, so now I'm really confused... After taking a closer look at the splitter and considering some of the advice in this tread, I started looking more closely at the side skirts. I thought before that there on Aero I and Aero II OEM choices. But, in my searching, it looks like there may also be a GT3 version??? Is this the case? I'm more lost now than I think I ever was on the topic of skirts. Really don't want to make the wrong choice and regret it every time I look at the car. Obviously, there are quite a few people with the Aero I skirts on '99-'01 cars, but how about the others? Anyone got good pics? I've searched, but haven't found a lot of good examples.
Thanks!
GT3 MkI skirts are referred to as Aero I but that GT3 never made it to the states but the 99-01 cars had them as part of the Aero kit. The GT3 that we did get (facelifted 02+) has the side skirts standard (Aero II) that have the hard edge. Hope that helps. The rounded ones you seen on "Bob's" car in the post before yours are the Aero I skrits.
Just a little advice Nick the front fiberglass spoiler you would buy from Getty would cost you $400 and you still will have a aftermarket spoiler. For about $500 more you can find a OE Aero bumper cover from Departstop. He usually advertises on Ebay. IMO its worth it because an OE bumper may add some resale value to the car.
Bob - First and foremost, I was just "yanking your chain" a little with the dumpster comment. I was not trying to be mean or negatively critical. There was absolutely no malice intended in my comment. If you took it that way, I apologize. I was just trying to be funny.
The reason I wanted to see a clearer pic of your car is because I like the Aero I skirts. I really like the more rounded profile of them compared to the "knife edge" of the Aero II skirts. I have seen a lot of Aero I pics on darker colored P-cars, but the curves and form of the Aero I skirts don't show up well on the darker colored cars. Your car is one of the few white P-cars that I have seen with Aero I skirts, which is why I wanted to see some other pics. I have an '04 and understand that the Aero II skirts "knife edge" is an extension of the front bumper "knife edge" and, therefore, would normally be the logical choice in skirts. However, I will probably install the Aero I skirts... just because I like them better.
Thanks for posting the other pics. The Benz looks great, as does the P-car.
What kind of wheels do you have on the P-car? Are they polished or chrome? Do you have a close up pic of them that you could post? Thanks!
Jetskied- I may look into that. Thought it would set me back quite a bit more than that so I never really put much thought into it.
Tim- I'll show you the wheels in person sometime if you like. I'm in SE Charlotte. Bob's pics swayed me to them a few weeks ago and I'm extremely happy with them on my artic cab.
gota,
no problem.. i wasn't really responding negatively to your post. more or less to lv's post.. i can understand the point of taking a picture infront of a dumpster really isn't exactly the most beautiful setting.. <g>.. but if you went through what i went through with my car, you wouldn't tihnk too highly of it either to make such a comment.. nothing against porsches, mine has just pissed me off to no end.. but now that i've replaced almost everything in the car multiple times.. <g> it's running fine for now.. and yes, as riad says, atleast it isn't on fire anymore.. but i still carry around the fire extinguisher inside just in case :>
Tim- let me know what your schedule looks like over the next few weeks. I'm going to be out of town quite a bit, but I will be in town at least a few days each week.
Nick,
Did you ever get this front splitter? I was thinking of it also but have never seen a picture of it on a car or heard how good the fit is.
If you or anyone has this and has photo's, I would very much appreciate seeing them and hearing what they think.
Thanks,
Paul
I've got a related question: Is there an aero aid for the front end of a '00, one that doesn't aesthetically demand skirts and a wing? I'm not interested in going to the aero look (it's cool, but not my thing), but I'd love to settle the front end down at speed just a touch. A nice, subtle little... something... what...?
I have not heard of an 'aero aid' as such, just the aero kit for '00. Putting a front aero bumper on will give you the aid you are looking for, however tt is not recommended to put only the front aero bumper on without a rear spoiler (straight from Porsche)...this is very unsafe at high speeds. But then if you just add the front aero bumper and a rear spoiler the kit will look incomplete without the side skirts...IMHO
There are additional pieces that you can get for the aero front bumper, but for a non-aero front bumper again I have not seen any and I would think it would look a little weird too.
But hey it's your car and you made it known you are not into the aero look, but the aero look is not just for looks, it is functional.
Porsche, themselves, realized that the 99-01s were inclined to lift at the front, and changed the bumper themselves for 02, so I don't think I'd be in trouble with a small splitter-type solution, or an 02-style bumper that accommodated my headlights. It is dangerous to add aero to one end of a car and not the other, but for 911s that risk is much, much greater if you do a wing and not a front spoiler. The reverse risks creating lift at the back, which seems unlikely at any speed I would drive at.
Anyhow, just curious. Lots of cars have small aero aids at the front that you don't even see unless you look closely; was just wondering if such a thing existed for this car.
I think you are going to have a problem locating much of a choice for pre '02 body parts nowadays, most of which you will find will probably be fiberglass. Suncoast has nothing from Porsche for our cars anymore.
MA Shaw may have something (
http://www.mashaw.com/
)
Bruce, yes there is an aero aid for the Mk1 front bumper. You can add a GT3 Cup Front Splitter (part# 996 505 986 90) for $175 (
http://www.gmgracing.com/porsche_aero.shtml
). This was discussed earlier:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...=399525&page=2
with a link to 6speed where someone posted a DIY with pics:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...&highlight=lip
.
Bingo. I can't find a pic of the lip for the pre-facelift cars, but this looks like the sort of solution I was imagining. Thanks so much for going to the trouble!
The guy with the post facelift car on 6speed did post much better pics but her's what the guy with the pre facelift car did post, using the GT3 Cup Front Splitter (page 3 of the 6speed thread):
I just installed the prefacelift gt3 lip (aero kit chin spoiler) on my 99 996. I used the guide on 6speedonline. Here is a pic. I'm hoping this will help out at track events. The car feels floaty at 100mph+ w/o the front lip. I'll post an update after my track event this weekend.
Here's a track update. Took the car out to Reno Fernley this weekend and got the car up past 115mph down the front straight. With the lip installed the car was VERY stable and gave me a lot of confidence going into the first set of esses. I didn't have to slow down much if at all. Before the lip, I'd have to slow the car down a little get the car stable. This is great mod and I highly recommend it. It's a cheap mod that scores high in the stability/safety factors.
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