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Use cars, dealers will

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When pricing used cars, dealers will use NADA, KBB, or Edmunds, ie something the public can gain access to.

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December pricing for an 02 C4S is wholesale avg 57700, wholesale clean 61200.

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Use tt's along

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But I find it funny that Prestige has several new TT's and used TT's along with 2 04 C4S's they can't seem to sell.

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December pricing for an 02 C4S is wholesale avg 57700, wholesale clean 61200.

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and is in exceptional clean condition.

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Clean unless they are getting absolute top dollar

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Most dealers will start you out way under the wholesale avg and work upward from there, but will rarely ever go beyond wholesale clean, unless they are getting absolute top dollar for the car you are buying.

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December pricing for an 02 C4S is wholesale avg 57700, wholesale clean 61200.

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and is in exceptional clean condition.

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Most dealers will start you out way under the wholesale avg and work upward from there, but will rarely ever go beyond wholesale clean, unless they are getting absolute top dollar for the car you are buying.

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Use black book

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Most dealers use the black book when purchasing cars and trade-in allowances, which the public doesn't generally have access to.

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Use cars, dealers will

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When pricing used cars, dealers will use NADA, KBB, or Edmunds, ie something the public can gain access to.

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Use tt's along

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But I find it funny that Prestige has several new TT's and used TT's along with 2 04 C4S's they can't seem to sell.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is there anyone with experience in trading in a 02 C4S ? I'm thinking of trading mine in for a GT3 at a dealer and avoiding dealing with tire kickers and posers. It has 9200 miles, Artic Silver/Black leather, xenons, bose, painted sport seat backs, rear wiper, painted crests, etc. and is in exceptional clean condition. How bad do you think I will get hurt at the dealer as opossed to selling it privately? Is the Kelley Blue Book guide accurate? If so 996's have really taken a hit since the 997 came out.

POST 2Original post

try using http://galves.com/ if you want the pricing guides that the dealers are looking at., nada.com isnt a bad guide either. Be prepared for the dealer to throw you a very low number first time around.

POST 3Original post

I found edmunds.com pretty accurate and they do a better job of allowing you to include all of the options that you have...

POST 4Original post

Hey Neighbor, Maybe this will help you. http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/usa/pages.search_menu

POST 6Original post

Mine is similar but with 10k miles and red. They wanted to give me 51k on trade towards a TT. Needless to say I told them where to stick that number.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's incredible when your buying at the dealer how hard you have to fight for a measely discount when a new or "hot" model comes out like the C4S in 2002. At the very least the dealers can give you a decent trade in value. They don't have to make ALL of their money on one deal. Low 50's seems to me to be absolutely disgusting.

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Yup. But I find it funny that Prestige has several new TT's and used TT's along with 2 04 C4S's they can't seem to sell. Serves them right.

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Most dealers use the black book when purchasing cars and trade-in allowances, which the public doesn't generally have access to. I have a dealers licsense, although I haven't sold any cars for quite some time. December pricing for an 02 C4S is wholesale avg 57700, wholesale clean 61200. Loan value is 58850. Most dealers will start you out way under the wholesale avg and work upward from there, but will rarely ever go beyond wholesale clean, unless they are getting absolute top dollar for the car you are buying. This is really considered the only way for dealers to make a profit on trades. Incidentally, the black book offers very little for optional equipment, even on Porsches who charge way more than any other manufacturer for options. On the 02 C4S the only addition listed is $600 for navigation. It does, however, usually provide for deductions for the lack of certain features, but there are no deductions listed for the C4S. When pricing used cars, dealers will use NADA, KBB, or Edmunds, ie something the public can gain access to. These books do provide for additions for optional accessories, low mileage, etc. It is always economically advantageous to sell your own car, then go buy what you want. But most people do not have the patience or the time to do that.

POST 10Original post

the C4S is a very highly desirable 996, more so than the TT i've found.. (lots of people don't want the power of the twin turbo, but want everything else it seems...) if you don't want to deal with tire kickers, put it on consignment at a lot.. they will gladly take it i'm sure, and park it upfront to attract attention to their dealership... instead of having a dealer insult you with their trade-in value...

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