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he does have the hids though

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Based on his description (headlights are whiter) I suspect he does have the HIDs though which would explain the color difference.

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Replace by the end of the 996)

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Back in the days of the 996 I could kinda understand it as HIDs were still just for the higher end cars and not prevalent (though that was already changing by the end of the 996).

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Replace by the end of the 996)

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Back in the days of the 996 I could kinda understand it as HIDs were still just for the higher end cars and not prevalent (though that was already changing by the end of the 996).

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Fog light reflector assemblies are design to provide a low and wide beam pattern, the idea being to illuminate the close in roadbed so you can continue forward SLOWLY, not so fast as to over-run the illumination.

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Use yellow tinted goggles

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That's why night skiiers use yellow tinted goggles.

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Back in the days of the 996 I could kinda understand it as HIDs were still just for the higher end cars and not prevalent (though that was already changing by the end of the 996).

Fog lights

Run illumination

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Fog light reflector assemblies are design to provide a low and wide beam pattern, the idea being to illuminate the close in roadbed so you can continue forward SLOWLY, not so fast as to over-run the illumination.

Fog lights

Use yellow tinted goggles

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That's why night skiiers use yellow tinted goggles.

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he does have the hids though

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Based on his description (headlights are whiter) I suspect he does have the HIDs though which would explain the color difference.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Only used them for the first time last night. They look a dirty yellow color when turned in. Headlights are very clear white. Is that normal for the fog lights? Different wavelength of light to cut through the fog I assume?

POST 2Original post

Are your headlights halogen or bi-Xeon? The color differs on ours, but that's because the headlights are the bi-Xeon versus the halogen(?) for the fogs.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Not sure. How do I tell. I'm sure they are just the stock 2003 carrera lights.

POST 4Original post

The Xenons look like (note the smaller lens towards the top of the headlight area): The halogen will look something like this (couldn't quickly find a MkII halogen light):

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok I have the Xenons. The fog lights come out a bit yellowish when turned on. Hope that's normal.

POST 6Original post

The difference is the different bulbs types (fogs are not Xeon). If you still have the original bulbs new ones would probably be brighter, but they will still be yellower than your low beams.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 10894804

I found out that some MKIIs came with Halogen projector headlights - meaning that they look like HID Bixenons but they are regular H7 halogen bulbs behind projector lenses.

POST 8Original post

Really? That's annoying (from trying to figure out what you have). Based on his description (headlights are whiter) I suspect he does have the HIDs though which would explain the color difference.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll get some photos tonight to see if I can show what I suspect is normal.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Here are the various states of off and on. image-262584622.jpg image-3368625633.jpg image-2200883383.jpg image-140339904.jpg

POST 11Original post

You can easily find some whiter fog light bulbs that will more closely match the xenons. I did that several years ago. They match pretty good now.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 10896464

What bulb is the best match?

POST 13Original post

If you intend to use them as a true fog light, then a bulb with a lower color temperature (like the standard OE bulb) will provide better visibility than a "whiter" light. If you want to use them as driving lights or simply want a certain look, then try to find a bulb that has a color temperature closer to the OE HID lights, which is 4,300 K.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was more interested if it is normal for those colors. Seems the color is correct for fog driving effectiveness. They really aren't bright enough for useful driving lights.

POST 15Original post

It is perfectly normal. I only use mine in the fog, so I've got standard bulbs in there. For performance could be improved even more with a true yellow bulb, but I agree with you - they aren't very bright.

POST 16Original post

Fog light reflector assemblies are design to provide a low and wide beam pattern, the idea being to illuminate the close in roadbed so you can continue forward SLOWLY, not so fast as to over-run the illumination. Useless as driving lights. The yellow/amber tint will give your human eyes more ability to define terrain better. That's why night skiiers use yellow tinted goggles. I always use -AW (All-Weather) bulbs, only in actual daytime foggy conditions,and ALONE.

POST 17Original post

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I know, I was shocked that a $100K car could come with halogen projectors...I read this post and was surprised - a C4S with halogens!! http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...-for-2003-c4s/

POST 18Original post

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Back in the days of the 996 I could kinda understand it as HIDs were still just for the higher end cars and not prevalent (though that was already changing by the end of the 996). Now what really gets me is that Halogens were the default option on my 2013 Cayenne. Really Porsche? What surprised me in this case was halogens that look like HID projectors. I hadn't seen/heard of that before.

POST 19Original post

that's a frekn beautiful set of headlights. in a decade or two, maybe the most sought after....IMHO- m

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