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The issue is most prevalent when the engine is warm, it hardly ever happens when I first drive the car.
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1st gear issue is much better and overall shifting is much smoother.
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I just purchased it about two months ago and had a new clutch (and RMS, IMS, AOS) installed immediately.
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What I have found works for a Boxster 5-speed transmission that is getting a bit hard to get into 1st when dead cold (after sitting outside all night) is to fall back to using a trick I used with my '96 Mustang GT which did this from day #1, and that is to shift into 2nd, let the clutch out slightly to just barely cause the car to move, then depress the clutch shift to 1st (or reverse) and that's that.
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IIRC the change interval is 90K miles but techs advise me that is one wants to be a bit kinder to the transmission to cut this 90Kmiles to 60K miles, or even 45K miles.
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I have no real place to work on the cars though once in a while I'll do my own oil/filter services and even brakes, but I have no desire to ever change transmission fluid again (I changed it once/twice years ago for other vehicles I owned/worked on and I hated the job.)
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I have a 99 C2 with 80K miles. Frequently it is difficult to get into first gear. I have found that if I let the clutch out just an inch or so, that I can then get into 1st gear easily. I just purchased it about two months ago and had a new clutch (and RMS, IMS, AOS) installed immediately. The first gear issue has existed since the purchase and I'm not sure if it was happening before the new clutch was installed. The PO said he did not notice the issue but it was hardly driven the past two years.
Does it make any sense that it goes into 1st easily if I slightly release the clutch?
Thanks!!
-Brad
The slight release of the clutch causes the gears to rotate and the dog teeth which were across from one another move/rotate slightly relative to each other and as you apply pressure the gear dogs engage.
What I have found works for a Boxster 5-speed transmission that is getting a bit hard to get into 1st when dead cold (after sitting outside all night) is to fall back to using a trick I used with my '96 Mustang GT which did this from day #1, and that is to shift into 2nd, let the clutch out slightly to just barely cause the car to move, then depress the clutch shift to 1st (or reverse) and that's that.
I do not know the history of your car but you might consider a transmission fluid change unless you have confidence it was changed within say the last 45K or more miles. IIRC the change interval is 90K miles but techs advise me that is one wants to be a bit kinder to the transmission to cut this 90Kmiles to 60K miles, or even 45K miles. I change the fluid -- have it changed -- in my cars' transmissions between 45K to 90K miles.
Sincerely,
Macster.
That sounds like great advice to change the transmission fluid. All scheduled maintenance has been performed but if this is not reccommended until 90K, I'm sure it has not been changed.
Is there a DIY for changing the transmission fluid?
Thanks for the quick response and education!
Why are you trying for first gear when you are still moving...biggest mistake in driving any manual geared car. First gear is for moving off from a starting position. If you think it is for anything else then you should not be driving a geared car... racer or any other car. Give me a break....
Yeah, except... slowing in thickening traffic... where first is MUCH advised over lugging the engine in 2nd. (less than 10 mph). Look at the manual for "suggested" gear ranges.
First should be fairly easy in a stopped situation.
Is there an adjustment required?
Did you say you have difficulty dropping down to 1st, or are you talking about before you have the car (and gearbox) up to temp?
And a gear oil change looks as easy as an oil change (which draws the same amount of devotion around the products to put in there).
Good luck!
In a hurry so maybe I missed something but I didn't read that the issue came up from trying to shift into 1st with the car moving.
While I try to avoid shifting into 1st with the car moving sometimes I get caught out and to come to a stop invites getting rear ended by some butthead on a cell phone so I do this but only if the car has slowed to a crawl and even then I ease the shifter into 1st and only if the speed is too low to keep the transmission in 2nd and accelerate.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I'm pretty sure there's a DIY on transmission fluid change but I do not know where one is.
I have the transmission fluid changed at the dealership. I have no real place to work on the cars though once in a while I'll do my own oil/filter services and even brakes, but I have no desire to ever change transmission fluid again (I changed it once/twice years ago for other vehicles I owned/worked on and I hated the job.)
My local dealer charges 0.3 hours labor and sometimes I get a nice discount on the fluid.
(Last time I think I got the fluid for $5/liter... See, you guys, sometimes it pays to be nice to your local dealer!).
Sincerely,
Macster.
What part of my post makes you think the car is moving? This is happening only when engaging first gear at a dead stop. The issue is most prevalent when the engine is warm, it hardly ever happens when I first drive the car.
I've been driving 'geared' cars for 30 years. I think I know what I'm doing. Give me a break....
The hurdiggurdiman probably just misread your post. It happens to all of us once in a while.
I only have to use the shift to second and give the car a bit of a nudge to shift to 1st/reverse when the car's dead cold. After driving the car even a few blocks and shutting the engine off to run into a covenience store when I come back all all is ok. I can get 1st or reverse with no problem. And there's no problem ever when the thing is up to temp.
If the transmission is reluctant to shift into 1st with the car stopped and the clutch fully depressed and everything up to temp that's a better indication -- based on my experience with my Boxster -- the fluid needs to be changed.
Sincerely,
Macster.
This works every time. Before you push the clutch in, push the gear shift very gently towards 1st, then holding a little pressure on the shifter, push the clutch in.
What happens is that withh all manual cars, the gear box gears are at a dead stop when the car is stopped and when you go to get 1st, some times the input shaft gear and the output shaft gears stop tooth on tooth and won't mesh. Perfectly normal.
I agree with San Rensho on this one....I've had two P-Cars, Corvette, BMW, Nissan Z-Car and a Triumph and they all do the same thing. Give the guy a break - he's trying to get an opinion not beaten down.
I'm wondering if the clutch isn't on the way out...or perhaps already out.
When my pressure plate broke recently, the clutch still operated, but it became very difficult to engage gears - any gear mind you - but the lever needed quite a shove.
It shouldn't be difficult to engage first when cold. More difficult than when warm maybe, but not difficult to thepoint of not being able to do so without double clutching it.
As far as hurdigurdiman goes - just try to ignore him.
I'm pretty sure I can name at least three others that I manage to perform each and every time I drive my car. And as for, should I be driving a manual transmission, the answer is clearly no. But so what? I do it anyway and it's a blast!
What's
is
that third pedal for, anyway?
