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YOUR RESEARCHDo all stock 2002 lights suck?

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Use flashing

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There is a Halogen high-beam bulb in there also, and it is used for flashing.

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Adjust aim

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Try adjusting the aim to see if it helps.

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Adjust aim

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Try adjusting the aim to see if it helps.

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Adjust maybe the car's been in an accident

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If you need to adjust, maybe the car's been in an accident.

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best

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I have xenon lights on my other cars and the P-car is probably the best.

Do all stock 2002 lights suck?

Replace bulb (and add a balast)

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I also saw retrofit kits that just replace the bulb (and add a balast).

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Try adjusting the aim to see if it helps.

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Adjust maybe the car's been in an accident

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If you need to adjust, maybe the car's been in an accident.

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Replace bulb (and add a balast)

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I also saw retrofit kits that just replace the bulb (and add a balast).

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Replace bulbs

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I guess the next step is to replace the bulbs!

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They work great, so I see no need to replace the bulbs.

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Replace hieght you need

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Note that the instructions in my manual (at least) are wrong, to change the hieght you need to remove the assembly (not hard at all) and tweak in a rather trail and error way.

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Use flashing

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There is a Halogen high-beam bulb in there also, and it is used for flashing.

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I have xenon lights on my other cars and the P-car is probably the best.

Do all stock 2002 lights suck?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

One thing that I am disappointed about with my recently acquired 2002 996 C2 are the low beam lights. I am quite sure they are not the litronic lamps, but in all honesty I am not sure. When driving on wet roads, at night, it's almost like I have no lights on what so ever. Other cars next to me on the road seem to outshine my lights, and so do my other older cars with regular 55W halogen bulbs. The highbeams, on the other hand, seem to light up everything significantly better, almost disproportionally so. I have not checked whether the beams are aimed correctly. They do seema bit short. So my question to you all is: o Are the stock low beams known to be anemic? o How do I tell what kind of lights they are (I expect a flicker when lit with Xenon lamps which these don't) Thanks, Jan

POST 2Original post

If there is a little silver disc (that is the top of the headlight washer tower) on the headlight housing then you have Bi-Xeon headlights. There is a Halogen high-beam bulb in there also, and it is used for flashing.

POST 3Original post

xenon bulbs dim with age! How many miles on the car?

POST 4Original post

Don't fell bad, the 2001 litronic lights are also pretty bad. I have taken the car in to have them checked out, but they say everything is ok. I guess the next step is to replace the bulbs! I have 53k miles on the clock.

POST 5Original post

I have a 99 with the litronics. I have about 35,000 miles on the car and both the low and high beams are great. I have xenon lights on my other cars and the P-car is probably the best. That is interesting about the litronics dimming with age, I was not aware of that. My car was originally delivered in Canada, so the lights are on when ever the iginition is on, so the mileage equivalent would be at least double a US car. They work great, so I see no need to replace the bulbs. Kris

POST 6Original post

I love my bi xenon on my 02. They look great and light up well. If you see a round projector lense that shines blue light, you have xenon. If you have a regular halogen light bulb that shine white light that is slightly yellow, you have halogen. You probly have a halogen. Upgrade is about $1200 buying OEM on eBay and putting it in youself. It's not very difficult to do expecially if you get the original OEM porsche parts. Make sure you get 02-04 lights as 99-01 are different. Try adjusting the aim to see if it helps. If you need to adjust, maybe the car's been in an accident.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Lights are yellow-ish, the invoice does not mention litronics so it's likely to be halogen. According to the original owner, the lights have never been adjusted (and no front end dammage). What's the difference between bi-xenon and litronics (other then the obvious which the name suggests). Can I retrofit a bi-xenon set of lights instead of litronics? Any wreckers anyone can recommend? I also saw retrofit kits that just replace the bulb (and add a balast). How do they hold up? Won't they overheat the housing?

POST 8Original post

Flashing - on the 2004 GT3 with regular headlights, I observe the same poor lighting as you. The lights on the Porsche are very focused with really sharp cut offs. Even the litronic low beams are disappointing compared to the ones on my E-500. On the GT3, I was able to improve things a lot by aiming the lights higher. Note that the instructions in my manual (at least) are wrong, to change the hieght you need to remove the assembly (not hard at all) and tweak in a rather trail and error way. The improvement is very worthwhile. The halogen lights are bright enoough it's just that they are aimed too low. Rgds,

POST 9Original post

Bi-xenon are on 3.6ls, both low and high beams are xenon. Litronics are on 3.4ls, the low beam is xenon and the high beam is halogen. Retrofits won't included the self-leveling feature. I've been very happy w/the litronics.

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