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YOUR RESEARCHPPI on 996 C4S

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valve

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Yeah I had my no 1 cylinder read o PSI compression at 10,000 miles on rebuild once...it was the valve though...

PPI on 996 C4S
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Check car

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Suggestion

To be clear...I was thinking about finding a local PPI to check the car before I fly down to purchase it.

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Leading evidence: 'valve' (1 discussions report identifying this cause; no attributable repair resolution). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'valve' (1 discussions; 1 report identifying it and 0 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check car' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Check cherry undercarriage...dat's it

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I closed on the 2001 C4 last weekend and did a carfax, test drove it twice, put it up on the lift and checked the cherry undercarriage...dat's it...

PPI on 996 C4S

car will be

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Most likely the car will be from out of town -- I live in Kansas.

PPI on 996 C4S

Check car

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Suggestion

To be clear...I was thinking about finding a local PPI to check the car before I fly down to purchase it.

PPI on 996 C4S

Check dealer records, not required in every purchase like dj's

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Suggestion

Really a PPI amounts to putting the car on a lift, taking a look and running the computer and checking dealer records, not required in every purchase like DJ's.

PPI on 996 C4S
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Check car

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Suggestion

To be clear...I was thinking about finding a local PPI to check the car before I fly down to purchase it.

PPI on 996 C4S

Check cherry undercarriage...dat's it

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I closed on the 2001 C4 last weekend and did a carfax, test drove it twice, put it up on the lift and checked the cherry undercarriage...dat's it...

PPI on 996 C4S

Check dealer records, not required in every purchase like dj's

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Suggestion

Really a PPI amounts to putting the car on a lift, taking a look and running the computer and checking dealer records, not required in every purchase like DJ's.

PPI on 996 C4S

Check rms and tranny warranty history too

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I'd also check for RMS and tranny warranty history too.

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Fill me in

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Suggestion

Hey...fill me in on all the "shoulda dones!"

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Repair coming

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Suggestion · Original poster

Well, went by the shop and saw the under belly of the car...definitely saw a potential RMS repair coming.

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Run computer

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Suggestion

Really a PPI amounts to putting the car on a lift, taking a look and running the computer and checking dealer records, not required in every purchase like DJ's.

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Run like ****!"

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Suggestion

So my water-boy reponse was "Hmmmmmmmmmmm Dats Y it beeeen running like ****!"

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Test drove it since it was out of state

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Suggestion

I had someone checked it out and test drove it since it was out of state.

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Test drove it twice, put it up

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Suggestion

I closed on the 2001 C4 last weekend and did a carfax, test drove it twice, put it up on the lift and checked the cherry undercarriage...dat's it...

PPI on 996 C4S
Reported and suspected causes (2)

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valve

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Reported cause

Yeah I had my no 1 cylinder read o PSI compression at 10,000 miles on rebuild once...it was the valve though...

PPI on 996 C4S

car will be

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Suspected cause

Most likely the car will be from out of town -- I live in Kansas.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is it necessary on a NA car? Its an 02 with 15k miles and if it is, should I do a leak down /compression test as well? thanks

POST 2Original post

Why would you not? Just don't have the servicing/selling dealer do it....take it to an independent.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

good to know. Thanks. The car is going to Andial again and I'll know later on today.

POST 5Original post

Not a bad idea... I'd be VERY suprised if there was anything wrong with the leakdown after 15k but then again- you NEVER know.. so it's good to do it

POST 6Original post

Yes, yes, yes, yes....never EVER buy a Porsche without one. or any car for that matter. Chad

POST 7Original post

Well, I bought my 02 w/ 17k mi without a PPI. I had someone checked it out and test drove it since it was out of state. Knowing it was owned by the original owner that has a few Porsche's, I feel comfortable with it. In retrospect, it was a risk that I just didn't consider. I'd do it if I were you. A couple hundred bucks is little to pay. I'd also check for RMS and tranny warranty history too.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Well, went by the shop and saw the under belly of the car...definitely saw a potential RMS repair coming. It was a little wet around the area but not enough to drip onto the floor, yet. For the price should I buy it or move on? Since it is still under warranty, I could have it fixed and be happy.

POST 9Original post

Hey...fill me in on all the "shoulda dones!" What is a PPI? What is a Leakdown? I understand what a compression test is, and the value or one though. I closed on the 2001 C4 last weekend and did a carfax, test drove it twice, put it up on the lift and checked the cherry undercarriage...dat's it... Now that you mention it....we could have done more. Certainly the Compression test.

POST 10Original post

Pre Purchase Inspection PPI, the leakdown is the same as a compression test, tells you how well the rings/valves are sealing the combustion chamber at TDC, a small amout of leak is OK, as long as it is uniform. If 5/6 are 10% down and 1/6 is 40% down , that's a problem that might only show up ona compression test. It's actually easy to do, a special gauge screws into the spark plug hole via a fitting, undo the ignition coil and crank the starter several revolutions and record your data, repeat for each cylinder. Back when we raced SBC's the gauge was around 20$, probably 200$ for a 'porsche' gauge. In my mind a PPI is important for a p car bc of the significant $$ involved, however, that can be sidestepped if you know the guy or his car and trust him. Really a PPI amounts to putting the car on a lift, taking a look and running the computer and checking dealer records, not required in every purchase like DJ's.

POST 11Original post

Yeah I had my no 1 cylinder read o PSI compression at 10,000 miles on rebuild once...it was the valve though... So my water-boy reponse was "Hmmmmmmmmmmm Dats Y it beeeen running like ****!" So on the "leakdown" is it a percentage of MFG's Spec Compression in PSI or what ever compression is usually measured in ...?

POST 13Original post

All, My 1st post. :-) I am in the market for an 02/03 C4S right now...how do I find a credible place for PPI? Most likely the car will be from out of town -- I live in Kansas. Thx in advance! -WKL

POST 14Original post

IF you're in Kansas take it to Stephen at IA.. He'll talk you out of a C4S though into a Turbo lol

POST 15Original post

The porsche dealer in KC can do it, Aristocrat Motors, I believe. I used to live in KS.

POST 16Original post

To be clear...I was thinking about finding a local PPI to check the car before I fly down to purchase it. Can ideas how to locate a credible PPI shop in the city where the car is? Many thx, WKL

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