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YOUR RESEARCHIt's another tire question???
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Run 33 psi in front, and 40 in the rears
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With the next new set, I will check the alignment, but I really don't think that is a problem.
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Tom, I experienced the exact same things with the P-Zeros (2 sets of rears 1 set 10,000 miles the second 12,000 miles).
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With the next new set, I will check the alignment, but I really don't think that is a problem.
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I have 3 sets of wheels, 1 set with mps (18") and 2 with p-zero (1 with 18" and the other with 19")...
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OK, I know this question of tires on 911's has been flogged to death. So I will keep this simple.
I have gone through three rear sets of Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's in 16,000 miles. I like the way they handle but they are tapping my wallet pretty good. I am now at a point where all four tires need to be replaced.
My thinking is to stay with the P-Zeros, or replace them with Michelin Pilot Sports. The car is a 2002 C2 with sport suspension.
Anyone out there familiar with the handling qualities of both tires? Are there different models of the Pilot Sports tires besides the Pilot Sport Rib?
All of my driving is in canyons with very little time on the highways.
Thanks for any and all comments and help in advance.
Tom L
2002 C2
I have 3 sets of wheels, 1 set with mps (18") and 2 with p-zero (1 with 18" and the other with 19")... without a doubt the mps drives smoother, quieter, lasts longer and handles equally or better than the p-zero. I would spend the extra money and get mps.
I switched from the P-zeros to Pilot Sport Ribs. 2002 C4 with 18 inch rims. 16k on 3 sets is too low...your alignment must be off. You should get 10k or better on a set of rear tires, depending on driving style.
Tom, I experienced the exact same things with the P-Zeros (2 sets of rears 1 set 10,000 miles the second 12,000 miles). I loved the grip and handling, but they wore out too fast.
I moved to Michelin PS2 tires and found that they were quieter, gave a smoother ride, but the grip was not quite as good as teh P-Zeros. They had 14,500 miles on them when I turned the car back to the leasing company on Monday (6/2) and I figured thaty still had another 5,000 to 6,000 "good" miles left on them. THe PS2 does not come in 225/40/18 or 285/30/18 so I went with 235/40/18 & 295/30/18, both in the N2 rating. I highly recommend them.
Hope this helps.
I would certainly like to see 10,000 miles out of the rears. The tires wear even with a little more wear in the centers. The right usually goes to the wear limit before the left rear does. I run 33 psi in front, and 40 in the rears. This last time I cross rotated the rears and saw that they wore about equal. With the next new set, I will check the alignment, but I really don't think that is a problem.
My driving style, or lack of it, probably harks back to my dirt track days in the seventies. I have a heavy foot going out of the corners. I think the guys that are getting 10k or more on their tires must spend alot of time on the freeways and turnpikes???
If I go with the Michelins, is there a difference between the Pilot Sport Rib and the PSII's?
Thanks again,
Tom L
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