100 MPH plus

I realize that monday morning quarterbacking is 20/20 and what I did wasnt too bright but last night at 10 pm at the way to the Orl airport on an open highway without traffic I was traveling about 82 mph. In the background I saw a car approaching with white xeon lights and knew it was some foreign job but the distance was too far to determine the make. As the car got closer I got one flash of the high beams and knew it was a fellow Porsche driver, in fact a 2003 4S. Well, we waved and I decided to follow him just for fun. We were on I-95 north and the speed limit is 70 and it was clear and beautiful weather, New Yrs Eve night and no cops in sight. The 4S was moving at well over 100 mph so I followed suit and just kept it at 110, 112 (maybe a tad more) for quite a distance. It was fun but now to think of the consequences really scares me. I realized today that when I am driving either on a highway or on back roads and another P Car buddies up with me I get this "superman" invincible feeling that I wont get a ticket or into an accident, lose all rational sense and just break all kinds of speeding laws. Do most of you get this same urge or do you keep it in check? Imagine spending New Years Eve in jail for speeding? Well, knockwood, I didnt but this same scenario happens again and again to me..... That's why I drive a Porsche. Well, I am 53 so maybe they will have mercy on me in court!! lol Happy Holidays, Cabman

Hehehe - couple of thoughts - buy a rce car or become a track day regular to get it out of your system - works well for me. In fact I don't really like going on the mountain cruises with my Pcar buddies because everyone gets too crazy. I always think they should take it to the track. Did you read the thread earlier this year, I think it was on http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/ about the guy that was driving his turbo from LA to the east and was speeding through Arizona and just got a wild hair and decided to out run the cops? Very funning and scary.

i think the adrenaline rush of the rapid acceration, the exhaust, the passing of cars upon cars, putting your life in danger and others, knowing that you could die at any second from your driving.... and lose so much, whether financially, physically (limb wise) or otherwise... gives us all, kind of a twisted rush of of dopemine in the brain.. kind of like when you run into someone you are attracted to and lose all rational thought and intelligence in pursuit of the targeted prey... it's kind of like sex.. you feel great during the act.. and maybe do some things unsafe or that you shouldn't do.. until you finish the act... uhem... only to feel guilty or come to some rationalization of what you did may not have been the best idea... with this person you don't even know.. personally, driving my 996 cab with fabspeed muffler bypass through the tunnels at 150mph with the top down. i really could care less what happens the higher the speed goes... the dopemine in my brain is so high.. the danger is so high... until i finally... finally... can't handle it anymore... eyes wide open, grinning... .. well not that i get that far.. but when i slow down, i feel awesome.. then a few minutes later, i rationalize how stupid it was to put myself and others in such danger... it's very rare i'll do such an activity.. but sometimes, when having a bad night.. that can make things a bit better to take out some built up aggression.. as stupid as it may be.. sex and driving a sports car... two of the best and worst things in the world for the male psyche

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me. I feel exactly the same way. Something takes over when I'm in the Porsche and it feels good. Afterwards I ponder on how stupid I was but I still do it again the next chance I have. I guess its like any wonderful feeling in life comparable to various sex acts. 150 mph would be pushing it for me. At close to 115 my adrenalin was pumping and I felt great. I dont know what a coke high is but this speed high I have been getting since buying the Porsche has been addicting. I have a stock 996 without extra parts but in 4th and 5th gear at 80 mph,,, its an incredible pull until 115,, lightening to me. I just cannot imagine a 996 turbo from 80 mph to 120 mph. I hear its even more addictive..... Don

Cabman: just my opinion, here... That was a pretty idiotic and dangerous thing to do anytime but especially on New Years eve. Hope your sense of guilt stays with you for a very long time especially when you get behind the wheel of your car. I am always reminded of what I learned in law school. It has remained with me and it applies to almost everything we do in our lives. Its a simple definition of negligence: "Negligence is a failure to exercise that degree of due care which a person of ordinary prudence, (i.e., a reasonable person), would exercise under the same or similar circumstances and from which another suffers damages attributable (causation) to the breech of due care". Moms, dads and kids, hell, for that matter--entire families have been wiped out on the highways because some yahoo gets a hard-on to go fast and looses it. If such were to occur and I were prosecuting such a case I would have no problem pointing my finger at the accused (perhaps you) at trial and demanding of the judge to impose the per count maximum sentence for negligent vehicular homicide and go home and sleep like a baby!! Please man...there's only one place for driving like that and its on a track. Take it there and leave it there and besides its a kick in the butt!! ...A good and safe New Year to you... Jim

Jim, I understand where you are coming from and agree with you on the point about it being a very bad idea to drive too fast on New Years Eve � far too many idiots that have already had one too many before heading out. However, I have to disagree a little bit beyond that. Your view is that what he did was reckless. I might also venture that you might have the �speed kills� message ringing around in the background somewhere. My problem is this � on a clear straight highway with no traffic in a modern Porsche in good condition 100mph is hardly reckless � the car is designed to handle speeds nearly double that. I didn�t grow up in the U.S. but I know a lot of people here who have never exceeded 100mph and honestly believe that to that fast is foolish. However growing up in Europe these speeds were common. I commuted 40 miles each way by motorcycle for 5 years and hardly ever went below 85-90 on the M1 � never had a problem and the cops didn�t even bother to look at us because everyone � Mom, Pop and Grandpa � were all doing the same thing in cars with a top speed probably not much more than 20mph over that. What is my point? It is not speed that kills � it is inappropriate speed that kills. Someone doing 35mph when everyone else is doing 80mph is an accident waiting to happen. In this case he said it was a clear highway with good weather so (New Years Eve aside) I think the biggest risk he was taking was in getting arrested. Barry

As I stated, it was 10 pm, there were hardly any cars on I 95 between Melbourne and the Bee Line. I followed another Porsche at high speeds but I never felt I was driving recklessly. The car was stable and I was in control at 115. So, I don't feel like anyone was indangered and I would fight that in court. If there was traffic and a lot of weaving in and out that would be one thing but there was none of that. A beautiful clear 63 degree night and 2 Porsche's doing over 100. The track is great. I have done a few DE's but sometimes I feel like just going fast for more than a 1/4 mile. The track doesnt alleviate that need to really get it going for a few miles. Although I like the turns and curves last night was perfect for speeding and a track would not have satisfied that urge. Of course, I am willing to pay the consequences if I ever get caught knowingly breaking the law. Cabman ps,,, I have had a lot of very fast cars and never have gotten a speed ticket ,, going on almost 40 yrs.

I hope you knocked on wood when you made that ps,,, statement. have fun, drive fast and drive safe.

I sure did knockwood. I am very very cautious 99 percent of the time. Once in a while I get into a mood to act a little over the edge but not often. I dont want my insurance rates going up, I dont want legal fees or court fees and I dont need any trouble but sometimes we forget these things. Anyway, time to start packing for a 14 day cruise to Central America (Houndras, Panama, Costa Rica) that leaves from Jacksonville tomorrow. Cabman ps.. I will be driving my Toyota Tacoma 4X4 (lots of luggage) so no chance of speeding on I-95.

yep, crusing near 100 mph on an open clear highway in a modern porsche is "far" from reckless in and of itself. heck, cruising at 100 mph in my modern F150 is similarly uneventful and boring. 100 mph is most defintely not what it used to be given todays cars. the fact that it was new years eve with drunken idiots galore is a different story. personally i find it reckless to be traveling in a car at any speed on new years eve for that reason.

one must realize, atleast in the us, the way the legal system is setup, is it doesn't matter how god of a driver you are.. or how in control you are... the guy you were messing around with.. could have been intoxicated.. or even if he wasn't, if he crashed and died.. you could be found responsible for his actions.. even if you kept driving, they would probably end up at your door the next day after scanning the local VIN database for porsches in your color... there aren't that many porsches in smaller towns/cities... which makes it easy to find ya.. (which probably would be the case, as i'm sure you passed atleast one or two witness drivers) and be found guilty of manslaughter, ending you up in the slammer for a few years.. which if you have a family especially, is probably not something you want to risk, let alone the guilty consisence, the civil suits, the legal aspects, the felony on your record, and all that is associated with it.. there's alot of morons out there that can't drive... just because they can afford a porsche, doesn't mean they are any better drivers than grandma in her old caddy deville... i always have my beliefs on driving at excess speeds.. 1) always always be alone in the car and on an open highway... never put anyone else's life in your hands if you choose to engage in such speeds.. 2) always do it without anyone egging you on, or with anyone else involved... none of that cat and mouse crap, you see so often, especially with little kids and their rice-mobiles... if the road is clear, you are alone in your car... then by all means, we're all entitled to a little fun... once in awhile.. i just feel one must use as much rational as you can when you taking on these speeds on US roads.. unfortunately we aren't in europe... so anything over 100mph will land you in jail and lose your license.. and if someone dies because of your 100mph+ escapades.. one will truly land in jail for more than the night... regardless, you'll have a couple years to think about it behind bars... on that note, welcome all foreigners to the great usa

Hey guys,,, I posted this just for a haha,,, now I am sorry I posted this. I am 53, worked in a Public Trust position for 30 years and really dont need any lectures. There was nothing said that I dont know about I just chose to share some honest feelings I had. Next time I will know better. Cabman

cabman, ..don't take it personally (i'm sure i'm speaking for many others here as well) :> lots of readers are also reading this post... i didn't post my message in relation to yours, or to make you come off as a bad person... i simply did for the benefit of the other drivers considering driving at high speeds to consider that aren't knowledgable of the accountability of driving at such speeds... while many are, many are not... and it's always good for everyone to be aware of the situation they are putting themselves into and the risks associated with it... it's good for them to have a perspective on the situation as well... you just kind of brought up the topic... myself, and many others are simply expressing our feelings on certain actions, that's all.. on that note, enjoy the speeding, just keep it under 180

Cabman, Sorry - didn't mean to hi-jack the post either. I think many of us have experienced something akin to what you were talking about. To be honest my car feels so comfortable at those sort of speeds that when I first got it I had to set the gong to stop me from doing it accidentally. Personally I like fast that involves twisties. Track days are great but what I really enjoy is reading the road while I 'make good progress' - it is an art form in its own right and something that I have spent years practising and teaching. I am not really interseted in pushing the cars limits that often and when I do get the urge an AutoX is usually good enough for me (along with much lower risk of anything nasty happening). As long as your enjoyment of life is not interfereing with someone elses enjoyment of life then everything is good. Enjoy the cruise! Barry

don't worry about it cabman, if 100% of those on this board said they'd never done what you did, 99% of them would be lying.

Well said Barry, I agree 100%. The circumstances and driver actions to me are much more important factors than speed when it comes to driving recklessly. I often drive at triple digit speeds, but you won't see me doing it on a crowded road, weaving thru traffic, cutting people off, tailgating, racing, etc. I have a vehicle that's well maintained and very capable of handling the situation and I have experience driving fast. I'm also very aware of my surroundings and won't take chances. Does that make it right for me to speed? No, but I'm not being reckless either or putting others at risk. Cabman, don't be so hard on yourself. You didn't do anything foolish...although, I wouldn't push my luck on New Year's Eve.

We have all done it and are lucky not to get caught....New years eve is a little bit of a bad chioce as the cops are really looking for drunks etc... Ripping it up in the mountains I almost crushed a deer at 70 in a tight turn....Scared the hell out of me and now I am much more cautious....Deer would have crushed me is more like it. Robert

Hi Barry... Thx for the post. Actually, I don't view his admission of excess speed as reckless. I view it just the way I said--as negligent. Recklessness and negligence in the law are two very different things. Negligence is a legal concept that is based on the standard of due care that a 'reasonable person' would exercise in any given circumstance. Recklessness has a wide range of meanings that are usually defined differently in local ordinances and laws. Generally reckless behavior implies wifulness or carelessness, etc. What is a 'reasonable person' in this circumstance of driving down a highway? The law would view a reasonable person as a common everyday driver of an automobile traveling down a roadway at the posted speed. IOW, obeying the posted speed laws, drives dilligently, etc. Its just that simple. Lets say there was an accident and damage or loss of life was sustained by another because one was driving at 110 MPH. Based on the 'reasonable person' standard that person is negligent. If a person is traveling down a road greater than the posted speed looses control of the car and another was injured or killed, in addition to traffic violations, (one of which most likely will be "reckless driving") criminal violations for loss to property or life, the driver having breached his duty of due care (not acting in the manner of a reasonable person) most likely will be sued by the injured individual or his heirs under the a negligence theory. Yes, a good defense attorney, would probably try to argue that a 100 - 115 mph for an experienced P/car driver is not negligent especially if it could be proven that the driver was highly skilled, had performance driving training, and the roadway was completely clear, etc, The only problem here is that it isn't just the two attorneys fighting it out...they are playing to the jury of his peers (and I'm certain there wouldn't be 12 Porsche drivers sitting in the Jury box). Juries don't like speeders especially where loss of life is sustained. I'll tell you this, somebody who admits to excessive speed in which another was killed...that person is going to do time (in many jurisdictions across the US) after the jury convicts him. Look, this is just what I think. Its dumb to drive those speeds on open hiways unless you're on the autobahn or up in Montana where it isn't unlawful to do so. If you want to drive 110 mph do it on the track and have a good time while doing it. Have a good new year Barry...good talking to you... Jim

Jim, If you are saying that people (and the law in particular) are going to come down hard on you if there were an accident and you were driving over 100mph then you will get no argument from me. Personally I would welcome a multi-tier driving licence that worked along the lines of...if you pass the basic test you are allowed to drive up to 55mph. If you pass an advanced driving test (which must be re-taken periodically) then you are allowed to use additional lanes (sort of an HOV type of thing) and allowed to drive up to 80mph assuming conditions permit. Hopefully, since only those with advanced training would be using those lanes, those people would know when it is inappropriate to go at those types of speeds. But, these are all just opinions and everyone is entitled to have their own... Best regards, Barry

Start at the hearing and work backwards. You are sitting in the witness chair and the DA asks you whether or not you knew that 120 mph was over the posted speed limit? Then asks whether you have any experience at these speeds? (Consider the "reasonable person" argument mentioned before) Then he asks you to please explain to the jury how your loss of control, had the blowout/ animal contact/ jerk that pulled out in front of you/or any other item not caused by you that caused you to encounter whatever you encountered( it wasn't your fault)..... would have caused the same outcome as what happened when you were not going 50 to 70 mph over the speed limit! You have to do some pretty good tap dancin' to smoke that one by the jury! Especially jurors who had no idea what P-cars are easily capable of. Remember they drive Tercels or pickups! Perhaps they could even be directed to be envious by your opposing council! And remember....all P-car drivers are rich so they should be able to pay for ALL damages! DEs are a really good investment!

My opinion: Choose your best & safest instances to drive fast & get a Valentine 1 detector!

i've found radars to be a mixed blessing... they sometimes give you a false confidence.. i refuse to have one, as that prevents me from speeding all the time by thinking i'm safe.. thus being more alert all the time when speeding, instead of putting my faith in a box that won't help me... cops are pretty smart now at avoiding radar detectors, especially with lasers and such... tickets with a valentine 1 in 2 years = 4 tickets without a valentine 1 in 2 years = 0 my experiences and beliefs.. false confidence = not a good thing... sure the v1 saved me a few times, but for all the times it didn't.. i could have prevented knowing i had no protection.. kind of like going on a first date without a condom.. you know subconciously you aren't gonna have sex, so you act different than if you had one.. (nice relation to a radar detector, i know, but it makes sense, doesn't it? )

No Doubt dude! Frigg'n "Persucutors" I mean... Prosecutors! I'd bet a dollar to a cops donut he's visiting 100+ at least once daily in his Porsche.

Your opinion is my opinion here as well.

Honestly, if I am going fast on a HW, I am not the one the cops should be worried since because I KNOW how my car will react under a panic stop and/or manoeuver. That is one of the BEST things the track teaches me. Besides, as verybody has stated here, when I go fast, I do not do stupid things like cutting off cars and swerve in and out of traffic. And I most certainly drive to the road conditions. What cops SHOULD worry about are those STUPID people with minivans, old trucks or cars that go 90+ MPH on the HWs that DO NOT have the tires, handling and the knowledge of how their cars will react to a panic stop or manoeuver situation. I get specially furious when I see mom driving minivans full of kids going 90+ MPS on the HW. Way to go....

No Doubt! That's trippy ...and they usually got "H" rated tires doing 90mph+ for an hour, in addition to a few wreckless cut-offs waiting for everyone, a hand full off rage and, few un-seatbelted brats in the back sticking out their tounges while flip'n you a mini-bird! . . .

Amigos, I find this topics very interesting, there are so many viewpoints here which only confirms how life is completely relative. I am not sure if the wine is catching up with me or what, but here are my thoughts. 1. Most if not all 996 Owners have a true passion for Automobiles and the art of driving, the ability of own a PROSCHE 996 is a reward of that passion. With that said, passion knows no boundaries. It understands no logic. The 996 is designed bring out that passion. To have a level of constraint daily requires much discipline, not to experience the level of performance is almost unheard of. When a quick ride to the local supermarket is a treat, where else can you get that much fun without a prescription? So with that said, let�s not be hastily to judge. Can we truly say we do not faultier when driving your 996? 2. No, neither Man or Woman should feel a sense of guilt buy driving their 996 at higher speeds, (providing no traffic is present) these fine automobiles are built for speed and more importantly braking and handling. Cruising in triple digits in very light to no traffic is a daily event for me. Though I pay much attention as the speeds increase, I can react perfectly with the ability that only a Porsche can provide me with. Hard braking while maintaining my position is a daily event, this doesn�t mean that I am a reckless driver; it simply means that I have more room to work with because of the type of cars we drive. 3. I Forgot my last point - It�s the wine, definitely

On my way to PA today with my 3 kids in the min-van cruising at about 75. Traffic was light but there. Along comes someone in a Hyundai Tiburon probably going at about 95 and weaving through the cars � cut across my bows going from left to right before driving on the right shoulder to overtake the car in front of me! I swear I checked the mirror because I thought he must be being chased and I was looking for the chaser. This was also in an area that I know the cops often hang out in � alas, not today Now THAT was inappropriate speed� Barry

Houldsworth1, I had a similar experience about a month ago. Two Mitsubishi Evo's came up behind me in the left lane doing 90+ in heavy freeway traffic on 880. The first one came up on my bumper, then went left into the breakdown lane and started to pull up next to me. The second one came right up behind both of us. Needless to say, I moved to the right and slowed down A LOT to give those idiots room to kill themselves in front of me. Last I saw, they were chasing each other through traffic, and I'm just glad I didn't see a crash a couple miles down the road. smdb01us: I can top the minivans. On I-5 today between LA and SF I saw a gigantic RV cutting through traffic like it thought it was a Porsche. Changing into the left lane, it cut off a Mercedes in front of me, but was 2 car lengths short on space. Forced the Mercedes onto the shoulder, and lucky it didn't cause an accident.

Yep, typ. minivan driver...does not suprise me at all. I stay away from miniac- vans.

You know...not all mini-van drivers are idiots... I was not happy about getting a mini-van but with three kids in seats it was the only thing that made sense. Now I am a convert (as long as it is not your only vehicle). Aside from the status thing 95% of the people driving SUVs would be better off with a mini-van becasue: It holds more - I have taken 4 kids and 3 adults from New York to Vermont on a ski trip with all their gear (including skis) in comfort. The sliding doors mean that the kids can't ding other cars as they get out You can take the seats out and use them to haul - I have carried a van load of lumber, furniture etc. You can move around inside while the vehicle is moving (to, say, get to a kid that is about to throw up! People are surprised when you pull away from them on jug-hanldes etc. And if they catch you up - well, hey, big whoop - you're in a mini-van, where's the cred in beathing that But...as a rule of thumb...treat ALL other drivers as idiots - the worst case is that you will be pleasantly surprised. Barry

H1, I disagree with you there. I can do all of the above and then some with my(wifes) Expedition. Plus, it's a hell of a lot safer. She was rear ended by a minivan, not a scratch on her or the Expedition, the Dodge Caravan looked like a spent beer can.

Thats good stuff Don, I would have never thought that you would do something like that. Live your life. I would have just done exactly what you did but I wouldn't suggest it on anyone who couldn't handle the consequences/speed. Anything can happen at anytime, whether you decide to drive fast or slow. Fate is twisted in a lot of ways.

Surgeon, Front impacts are usually worse than rear because of crumple zones. In a car-car collision trucks often come out better. In collisions with other objects they often come out worse because they are not required to have the crumple zones etc. (this is also partly why the car-car collition they come out better.) That is also why Ford loves them and pushes them so much - they are very cheap to make and sell at a premium. And...can you say 'rollover'? I think my biggest beef with trucks is not so much trucks themselves but that the people driving them think they are invincible. This is particularly irksome when they think that the laws of physics in rain/snow have been suspended because they have AWD. Watching someone in a vehicle weighing twice what your car does driving like an idiot in the rain/snow is not something I want to see - particularly when you consider the whole car-car impact thing. But...as usual...each to his own. Oppinions are just that - everyone has one and is entitled... Barry

Things you can expect from Miniac-Vans... - To be rear-ended by one becuase they drive waaaaay to fast, usually with kids in them. - Unless they rear end your PCar they will look like "spent beer cans" totally unsafe especially with some walking to the rear of it to clean-up puking baby's while someone is behind the wheel driving way to fast and getting ready to rear end a brute sized Expedition.

Of course the best way to walk to the back to get the puking kid is just to put the car on cruise control on a straight bit of road...or did you ASSume that it wasn't the driver doing the walking around

I felt like I should stick my nose in here to offer a "worse judgement" story. The year was 1997. I was on the way from Tennessee to Ohio after a BMX race in which I had broken three ribs (didn't know how badly until I saw the X-ray later, all I knew was that it hurt like hell to move.) I was driving a 1997 Land Rover Discovery five-speed. I was doing about 75 on the freeway when a Turbo 3.6 pulled up behind me. I moved over and he went by. I've always been a 911 fan so I accelerated back up to five or six car lengths away... now we are doing ninety. He looks in the mirror and accelerates. I do the same. Now we are doing 100. Again. 110. The Rover, being shaped like the box the 911 was shipped in, is experiencing considerable wind noise at this point. The truck is rocking gently which makes my ribs hurt like holy hell. The driver looks back, waves... the tail of the Turbo squats and the car walks away, leaving me with the throttle pinned at an indicated 114mph. Once he disappeared from view I slowed down to 60 or so to let the heat out of the T-rated tires. In any European country (except the UK), this would have been just like any other day. In the United States, it was probably grounds for imprisonment. But let's be serious. There is nothing morally wrong about extending your car a bit on an empty road. It is a peculiarity of the legal system here. I don't see the point in feeling guilty, unless you were slaloming around busloads of crippled children at the time. I will admit that since becoming a track regular I have slowed down on the road, to the point where I occasionally find myself doing 63 in a 65 That being said, there is a reason nobody wants to accept GPS speed limiters and an unlimited amount of speed cameras - the recognition that the law is an ***, and when it comes to traffic matters, that is doubly true. Take the same road in Germany and the US, and note that one is unlimited speed and the other one isn't - then realize that the speed limit is the same at 3pm on an empty, perfect-weather road and at o-dark-thirty on a rush-clogged snow-filled road... About the only thing I would say is, don't get caught .

hmmm, opinions are like ___holes, everybody has one.

If a lowly 951 guy might jump in here, don't ask how I got here, I have a few thoughts. 1. Double nuts...SEMPER FI! 2. lol Seeing how many of the above "ambulance chasers" are driving P-cars, I am now going to begin calling them "Ambulance Catchers"! After all, they can defend themselves if they get busted! 3. The stretch of HW that the poster was on, is one that I know very well, being a Floridian. The Beeline, I didn't name it, is a VERY sparsely traveled toll road in GREAT condition. The limit there is 70 mph. The stretch of 95 he was on is driven by every idiot tourist, and Floridian alike, as if it WAS a race track. I literally was doing 90, on I-95, in the right lane, on a Saturday afternoon, and getting passed by everything but Truckers. Truckers routinely do 80 to 85 on that stretch. I guess that is a result of the FANTASTIC stopping performance of a 9 bizillion ton tractor trailer. Maybe not? Either way, the cops pass you here in Jacksonville at 80, while you're doing 75 in a 70 zone. So 100 to 110, though a bit faster than average flow, isn't much more. My last trip to Daytona from here, was done in 57 minutes from my front door, with the pace of traffic. Seriously, I was the one moving right, not the one passing. So, was the poster really negligent in a state where the traffic speeds, however illegal, are pretty close to his speed that night? I guess that depends on the jury selection, and competence of his(hypothetical ofcourse) "Ambulance Catcher" hint: hire one who owns a p-car! just be ready to pay him, or her. 4. The best radar detector is your eyeballs and mental focus. 5. Any speed, in any car, on New amatuer's night EVE, is a dangerous decision, when not in a medical emergency. PERIOD! 6. I'm 36. I've never had a ticket. (knock on wood!) I've never owned a detector. I've been in three acidents. All three hit me, and just barely, because I drive with the absolute confidence that YOU are ALL trying to kill ME! It's just good policy! 7. To the prosecutor above...my attorney drives a GIANT AMG600. We'll get a plea bargain, because I have no record, a bronze star, and a purple heart, in a VERY southern state. Oh... and I'll drag it out until your boss tells you to make an offer for loss of license. blah, blah,blah. Still sux, but I'm not going away. Maybe to Rio!, but not AWAY. joke 8. Opinions are not like A Holes. A holes with ignorant, unbending opinions are A Holes because of their opinions. But cut us some slack...please! Safe driving to all. E

Amen to that... Show me the proof that my opinion is misguided and I'll show you a new opinion...

I sometimes find frustration that there is so much unexploited energy available and thats when the trouble starts. It may be the wrong car for N. Americian driving. I'm looking for track time to purge the system.

A couple of observations: 1. We all have opinions of other drivers. Most seem to be not-so-good. 2. Driving 100+ miles per hour in the middle of nowhere, late at night, in a reasonably safe place. I don't see the problem. We all have done it. 3. On the other hand, driving at that speed through traffic (i.e. the dodge and weave.) = STUPIDITY!! And finally, let's not forget. There are other people out there. People who are mothers, fathers, sons and daughters. Be safe for yourself and them. Beacause they don't doesn't mean anything. We all have an opinion on this. It's obvious we all like driving. Otherwise we wouldn't own what we have. I personally take driving on the highways very seriously. You just never know. cheers, Chad

Most long trips I take the average speed is 87 to 93 mph. I am usally driving my Range Rover and there usually is a sting of mini-vans and SUVs either following or in the lead. 100 mph isn't crazy and in my C4S is about the norm and I fell quite safe. Its not until over 110 that the feeling kicks in - that man hope there are no cops around. But I still feel safe all the way up to 140. Thats when i slow the fck down and its not really becuase I am feeling unsafe with the car, its more becuase my senses are telling me you gonna get caught.

SEMPER FIDELIS! . . . .

140 feels very good! Who's the lawyer? damn lawyers................... I sold my previous C4 to a lawyer and he smashed it. He's a Porsche driver for life now. The car crumpled up, airbagged, and kept him safe.

Here my theory on why minivans are bad.....talking from experience as a car driver and more frithning as a motorcycle rider....... 50% of minis are being driven by timid, scared soccer-mom who are not in their element beind a wheel. Nothing against soccer moms (I'm maried to one) but the one that DO know how to drive well don't drive a minivan. 50% are being driven by man who are sooo frustrated (because they are in a minivan) and thus will compensate by trying to act macho and driving like maniacs. Mind you I'm sure that there are scrared dads and maniac moms out there but rule of thumb stay away from minivan...and people wearing baseball caps....if you ever noticed most idiots drivers wear caps beind the wheel....no theory on that yet but working on it. (P.s. all the above to be taken with a grain of salt)

Well Here goes My humble opinion.... We have developed cars that are super fast, but not enough places to use all the power. For instance here in Brazil, in the main state which is S�o Paulo, we have only one track. And go figure how many "drivers" are in the streets wishing to "burn some tires" I think 100 MPH is nothing, do not worry about that. Your car can handle higher speeds. Before XMas, there was a small meeting of 12 porsches and 2 ferrari, organized by "Why be normal Racing team" . Most of the drivers had more than 40 years on the clock. It was like a mini-gumbal rally. I rembered staying a lot in the MAX speed of my car, which is 178 MPH. The Turbo (stage 2) reached 208 MPH, and the only car who could stay near was the MARANELO. Irresponsibilities apart, it was a lot of fun, and I would do it again... Best Wishes WOT

The folks who drive slower than we do are idiots, and the ones who drive faster are maniacs........ Cabman the thing about your post that most caught my attention is that you are 53.......Live on bro....from a fellow "senior"............ Some times the stupid **** that I do, at my advanced age, really shocks me....I guess I never did actually grow up......

yes 100mph may seem like nothing while driving, but here in the great us of a... 100mph+ potentially lands you in jail and having your license revoked for a year... a little higher trhan that.. and you are in felony territory of attemped vehicular homicide if the cop wants to be a jerk... which can carry upto several years in prison.. meanwhile blondie in her expedition can go 100mph, show some titty and get away... gotta love this country <g>

But Bob, that is what titty is for......You can't blame a girl for using her god given assets.....She goes into the dance knowing if she gets caught she hasta flash some pink....we go into it knowing if we get caught we hafta flash some green.....what's the diff?