Would you consider the 40th Jahre a collectors item?

One of my friend's is thinking about selling his and is in a debate whether this car will one day be a collectors item.... We all know it has the GT silver paint, turbo front, x51, metallic coated 5 spokes, etc. etc. out of the box, but do you think one day this will be a sought after 911 or will it be just another 996 in the mix of things? What do you think?

I dont think any 996 will be a collector, way to many were made, but one never knows, who would have thought the Buick GNX would be so rare these days!

yes

Nice car, nice setup. Almost bought one recently but couldn't come to an agreement on price. I would not say it is any more of a collector item then any other 996 that has been slightly modified. Tom L 2002 C2

Hmm. I think the 996 in all guises will be another 964 in terms of collectibility. The 964 is cheap for what it is because it is haunted by memories of oil leaks and fly wheel issues ( most of which are long since fixed ) which make it a very affordable Porsche considering it is the first "modern" Porsche. In 10 years time I expect you'll be reading about how the 996 in similar light. You'll read.. "well don't forget about the 996 - they are bargains.. the first water cooled car.." Why? The headlights. Keith

Chris, just curious as why you think it would be...

I'm also leaning toward no. And I may go so far as to say the Targa might be more sought after than the 40. But in either case the cars are just not exclusive enough to be in the collector category. However, I'm sure I'm functionally retarded so I have no clue.

From an existing 40 Jahre owner perspective, I'd say it depends... A car's family history of problems is independent of whether a car becomes collectible or not. For example pick any collectible British car from the 50's or 60's, and tell me they didn't or don't have problems. So IMHO 996 family "issues" will not affect if this or any 996 will be collectible. Assuming of course you have the deep pockets to fix the problems... Too many 40 Jahres were built (1963) that's way too many to make it collectible in the near future, but 20 or 30 years from now there will be a much smaller universe of these on the road. A nice example with low miles and in great condition will certainly be a great collectible. Cars are much different these days than the current classic/collectible cars (i.e. those built before the mid-seventies -- just to put a date). I always wonder how current vehicles will be restored 20 to 30 years from now, especially with all the techno-junk in them. Cars today have way more parts today than they did before. Rebuilding body panels is way easier than rebuilding the techno brains of a present vehicle. For example, restoring a 356 these days is not cheap -- but imagine trying to bring a 40 Jahre w/a blown PCMII module to original specs 30 yrs from now, and trying to find an original PCMII module in working order (if it costs $2K -$3K today--imagine 30 yrs from now?) Out of the 996 universe I'd say the GT3, Turbo, GT2 and 40 Jahre have the greatest potential of becoming collectibles (from a biased perspective of course). IMHO the 40 Jahre is the best execution of the non-track oriented NA 996 narrow bodied Carrera. They embody a great combination of style, sophistication and sportiness. Biggest problem I see for your friend is that if he really wants it to be a collectible, he would have to seriously limit his driving. Which is a shame since he will miss out on full bliss moments behind the wheel. Cheers.

I think porsche put in alot of great options together in a tremendous track package. Just didn't sell very well. It's a great car, wish I had one.

I don't think so same goes with Milli... Coupe. I think the only 996 that will be considered "collectors" cars will be the GT3 and GT2.

I really dig the Milli. mY wife just killed me when we saw one out in the Hamptons and said, "why didn't you get that one". Has the x51 package, nice set of wheels and is all around, well rounded.

what are the specs of the milli? how many were made?

Here is some info it only came in the metallic purple color though with burl interior. Not my style but lots of options. http://www.pca.org/tech/tech_qa_question.asp?id={99039DDC-D652-456F-9FFF-CFF3EE99B4EF}

The 996 with the X51 package may be more collectable than the 40 year anniversary, because there are less of them around. But in real terms there are no modern collectable cars because of all the electronics. The only car with a chance is the GT2 because there are about 300 odd in North America.

well, there are a few exceptions.. of course high end non-tech cars without all the electronic gizmos and gadgets may reach such status.. such as ferarris and all these low production super cars.... but in terms of under $100k... the only cars i can think of besides the previous style porsche.. over 10 years old right now.. that we have seen maybe "might" reach collectible status might be the supra twin turbo.. even though it's a japanese car :I the price just keeps going up and up on those things, and the less there are out there... barely ever see em around.. they only made 9,000 of the twin turbos in the US total.. and atleast 1/2 are totaled by now.. i remember i paid $22k for mine used, drove it 45k miles, and for 4 years.. my insurance company paid me $24.5k when i crashed it.. not a bad investment :> anyone else got any other cars on the top of their head? but umm yeah, cars in general.. new ones atleast.. i wouldn't bet the farm on making money on anything.. worse odds than keno..

I consider it a driver's car. That's why I have 26,000 miles on mine.

What is a collector car really? 996's are way too new to be considered collectors cars, but I think eventually 996's will sought after by enthusiasts. When the 996 comes of age when good examples are hard to find people are going to look for unique models not a standard 996, when you decide you want an older car your going to hunt around you want one that unique, and well taken care of.

I think down the road it may command a slight premium over some other 996s but nothing significant. That said, I really enjoy driving mine and am racking up the miles. I think it is a nice package. --------------------------------------------- Tony Westminster, Maryland USA 2004 40 Year 911 2000 Ford Excursion V10 1998 BMW 540 6 speed sport 1985 GMC Suburban (4" lift w/35" Super Swampers) 1980 Triumph TR-7 (367hp Buick GN powered) 2003 Yamaha Roadstar

911 Milli editions but I don't think they have the x51 package. All are C4 not S and had every option available at that time.

I agree - dont think it will be that collectible. I drive mine every day, 20K miles so far and loving it.

Anybody know the perf time differences between the stand C2 coupe' from 2004 and the 40th anny with the X51 package? They might be worth the difference

good question Dell... I'm going to line up with him soon and see how it is against a 3.4 w/a few mods Video to come...

It's such a superior package, it has to be faster than a C2.

I imagine so Chris. Just looking for some data to support the delta b/t the std C2 in 04 and the Jahre.

You would think Chris, but I played with one and it was a dead lock all the way up to 220 k, he let off. I thought it would have been faster but maybe it is after 220!

Fast40th...you are way too biased ...but I totally agree with you

Porsche didn't publish any data?