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this guy's problems could probably have been avoided outright if he had a PPI done before giving the dealership a cashier's check for the car.
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That is one of the big things to check on these cars and simple to do.
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I would think a test drive would detect a shot 2nd gear, no?
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Seems that in this case, a lengthy test drive would have revealed a problem that no in-garage, on-lift PPI would have.
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this guy's problems could probably have been avoided outright if he had a PPI done before giving the dealership a cashier's check for the car.
http://www.encore-exotics.com/
I would think a test drive would detect a shot 2nd gear, no? That really su@ks! The car looked so clean and cared for. I guess missing a shift with a turbo really kills the tranny.
I would have also researched the warranty company too. But I guess in the excitement of buying a 911 Turbo, things get missed.
I agree on the need for a PPI. To state that he made a judgment based upon the claims in the sale ad is really puzzling coming from a guy who sounds very literate in his web site complaint.
I do not understand, though, why this buyer has no recourse along the lines of the seller not delivering on the contract: i.e. the car was advertised with a warranty that did not exist.
2nd gear pop out is a problem on some 996TT. That is one of the big things to check on these cars and simple to do. Just get up to speed and lift of the accelerator and that will tell you if its bad. Somebody didnt do their homework of what to look for.
2nd gear pop out is not just a TT issue - effects earlier 996 models more than we'd all like to see
I have met a couple of 996 owners with exactly this issue, both non TT
test drive would clearly spot the issue
If I am reading the following page correctly, he states that he did have a PPI done at Baker Motor Company, the Porsche dealer in Charleston:
http://reddit.com/user/powlette/
And while wasting even more time, here is an article about the buyer, Mario and what can happen when a business does not own its domain name:
http://www.domainnews.com/en/general...ain-names.html
Ouch - there's one dealer getting what they deserved. Actually nice to see. I imagine everyone has at least one story of getting screwed by a dealer (I know I have)...
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I've heard of this issue on 996 c2,996 tt & Boxster S. Is it possible that Porsche just built faulty 2-gear syncros and put them in all their 6-spds?
Do 996 gt2 and gt3s have this problem?
What could a PPI do to detect this 2nd gear problem that a good test drive wouldn't do? Is the PPI inspector going to take the transmission apart??
IMHO, a PPI is a good guess at best (and, yes, I did get one before I bought my 996).
Seems that in this case, a lengthy test drive would have revealed a problem that no in-garage, on-lift PPI would have.
He did get a PPI from the Baker Porsche. Just goes to show how useless a dealer inspection can be. Frankly, he'd have been better off studying Rennlist to find out that 2nd gear pop out is common and to be vigilant.
996 M96 and TT G50 boxes have brass synchro's.
the GT3 and GT2 have steel synchro's which are stronger (also the GT2 tranny has some extra cooling compared to the turbo one).
different synchro material is my guess as to the source of the issue.
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