Selling any vehicle SUX!!!!

Ooof. People are such A--holes. "I have to ask my wife." "I have to sell my car first." "Wanna trade for my 1987 pickup and $5,000?" This after wasting two hours of time. Whether it's a car, motorcycle, no matter. Why can't people GET money, THEN go shopping? I'm ready to go to a dealer and give it away on trade. Sheesh.

What if I wire you 60K give the remaining balance to my driver when he picks it up?

You either deal with peoples BS, or deal with the stealerships BS and stealing from you...... People on Ebay have money, but sometimes doesnt meet your reserve, fees, etc.....

Problem solved. Meet me and my buddies at a place you have never been too before and come by yourself, gaurenteed I will love the car and you will not need to worry anymore about how selling the car sux

That's exactly what dealerships hope for... and honestly they are saving you a real hassel. But keep in mind that EVERYTHING is negotiable. So negotiate the price of the new car... then say "oh btw I want to trade in my car" and negotiate that deal separately. Have an understanding of exactly how "low" you will go and fix on that number. Of course be realistic the dealership has to make some money and more than likely it will be less than you could get for a private sale but it's a whole lot less annoying. Another point to keep in mide is sales tax... in certain cirumstances the dealer can save you from paying tax on the car you sold... I'm way too faded right now to remember the details but some less fuzzy rennlister will give you the details.

Heh, heh. Fortunately, for me, I'm a Colt Security Products customer. Wink, wink. Nudge, Nudge. Nod, Nod. Say no more. All true. About 3.5% here in AL, paid on the difference, rather than value of new car.

Ahhhh riad either you got off work early or you just dont give a f*$k

I'll be in a bus full of buddies then But seriously, sell it to a private party to get your monies worth IMHO

The latter for sure. I've got a serious case of the ****its.

i think the car does it to you, all of our cars have knight industries two thousand technology. What this was designed to do, is upon entering the vehicle, the German ****off sensor kicks in and enables you to gets to ****in it, as i like to say!!!

Take two of these:

Agreed, but you only need to sell it once, right? I went through a little of that selling my old Esprit S4s. Then one day the right guy called. 72hrs later I picked him up at the train station, he climbed in the car, and drove it 700 miles home. Now, try selling a $1900 motorcycle on craigslist. "Would you accept a notarized contract where I would make payments?"

what are you selling? details, where? pictures?

For most people after they work on the price of what they are trying to buy and there trade value with a reputable dealer in a state where you are only taxed on the difference it usually doesnt pay as much as you may think to sell on your own. It takes on average 90 days to sell a used car at a dealer and you dont have to pay to advertise it or have strange people drive your car. Remember only a few months ago the man in Boulder,Co that lost his life selling his 911- tragic- lots to consider and it will depend also on what vehicle you have and the price range that its in.

Well, when it comes to Porsches you often have to talk yourself into it. When I first started considering selling both my Subaru and my 911 to buy a 996, I knew it was going to take a while, but I still needed to go check out some cars to make sure it was worth the hassle. So you call up some people advertising their cars, and you go and look, and maybe you go for a drive, and yeah you get excited at the thought, and then you have to tell the guy, "I like it, I want to pay $X less than youre asking, but I have to sell two cars first." Sad but true. I have to look after my own interests before those of the seller. In your scenario, I would work like a ba$tard for months to sell the sub and my 911, now I don't have a car, and only then I start looking for just the right 996. Remember I haven't even looked closely at one yet. When I find one that's the right colour and options and mileage, I drive a 996 for the first time and yeecch! the interior is covered in cheap a$$ plastic, and the suspensions way softer than the 911 I sold, and the clutch feels all sproingy. Atthat point I would have realized I don't *want* to replace my 911 with a 996, but I can't go back now cuz the 911 is gone. You see why people start shopping before they are ready right. In my case, neither of the above happened. I drove two dealership 996 before I was decided to sell the Subaru and the 911. The first one convinced me to go all the way (it was a fairly straight forward 1999 which ended up selling two days before I was ready to actually buy) but the second one was a 2001 which had a wierd feeling clutch/tranny thing going on which told me I had to shop carefully (way overpriced as well). I ended up seling the Subaru first, and taking a loan for the value of the 911, so I could actually buy the first car that was the "one" I ended up buying a 2002 sight unseen, and it's an absolute sweetheart of a car. Then I (finally) sold the 911 and got out of debt. Anyway long story - the point is that there are valid reasons for guys going out looking at cars for sale even though they may not be ready to spend money (YET). It's part of the buying process, especially with thngs like Porsches.

Riad, where can I get a prescription for this?

Usually selling a used cars sucks. But every so often you find a real person that understands how well you've taken care of your car and the value of all the modifications. I sold my 95 993 with 28k on it. ROW M030 suspension, turbo sway bars, Koni shocks, factory aerokit, stainless door sills, shock tower bar, Kenisis 18" K28, fresh Michelins Sport Pilots, OEM sport seats, small carbon package, Litronics, sport exhaust. A true gentleman in Canada send me a cashiers check without even seeing the car after getting a clean PPI. Two weeks after I got his check he sent a auto transport to pick it up. It's rare that two honest people that can trust each other enough to make this kind of a transaction work.

I was able to get a lifetime prescription when I got married.

I once saw a CL ad for a $500 Ford Festiva where the poster said that despite requests, he was not able to provide financing for the vehicle.

I hate the dealers too-but..... But two stories make me worried. About five years ago we had a genetleman in Memorial, one the nicer areas in Houston have some come out to look at his Turbo. Murdered him for the car. The next story just shows how brazen some folks are. My buddy is a Physician in Tucson. He listed his 2000 996 C4 on Autotrader. After a few week he gets a call from Phoenix, guy comes down with a cashier's check and they meet at a restaurant and exchange title and done deal. Well three days later his bank returns the cashier's check, it was a counterfit. He for some reason checks Autotrader and car is at a small used dealer in Phoenix. Has a friend call a detective he knows in Scottsdale and he gets a squad car over right away. They impound the car. He spends the next month with his attorney ultimately getting the car back (whic call back with RMS and just went off warranty) and has attorney fees as his insurance company was balking on paying (title went to the new dealer and cleared DMV). Moral of the story is if you take a cashier's check, go the bank the check is drawn on to complete the deal. They can reissue one at the teller window or at least verify it.

I'm actually have very good luck selling vehicles myself. Many years ago I put my 89' Saleen Mustang up for sale. I used the newspapar and autotrader as my selling sources (now CARS.COM and AUTOTRADER.COM). My only mistake was leave a "for sale" sign on the car and parking it out front. This one jackass couldn't drive a stick. I drove the car for him. He asked the price and I told him twelve-five. He said it was a deal and proceeded to call his girlfriend and tell here he was buying a car for $1250. I had mild insulting conversation with him before I sent him on his we. About a week later I had 2 series buyers contact me and it sold within another week. The moral of this lesson is for nice cars, don't put for sale signs on them. You can avoid the trash. Since them I sold my 00' Miata and 90' CRX both advertising in CAR.COM and AUTOTRADER.COM. The big trick is to spend the extra money here. Put up a lot of pictures and use run until sold ads. Figure your bottom selling price and put the ad a little higher to make the buyer think they are getting a better deal by negotiating down. Both cars sold within 2 months for exactly what I wanted. If I sell my older 911, I will sell it myself (I bought it through an Autotrader ad). For my 996, I might look at trading it if I am going through a Porsche dealer.

Stay patient if you have the time. The right buyer will finally arrive. When I bought my pcar I was selling a car myself (luckily did not need to sell prior to purchase) and I think the lousy selling experience helped me get a good deal on my cab. I knew how crappy it was going to be for the seller so I tried to make it as easy as possible for him, and get the best deal. I was tired of the obvious car broker guys who will call and offer half the price. The few that I showed the car to, before I was better at triaging them, would offer low and waste my time. Just screen out the bs and stay patient. I got several calls after I finally sold mine. I luckily held out and got very close to what I wanted. I was almost ready to just give in for a while though.

I just recently sold my '06 Infiniti M35 using cars.com. You would not believe the number of calls I got from brokers and agents and such (almost all of them in Nevada for some reason) trying to get me to list on eBay, can help arrange financing, etc. I just stopped answering any calls coming from NV. The guy I ended up selling it to beat me up pretty badly on the price, but Infiniti can't give these cars away any more so I was competing with new cars at invoice price and 0.9% financing. Part of the deal was that I would sell his car, a 1998 BMW 528. He would have gotten 6500 for it on trade, so we agreed to split whatever I got over 6500. I had to put on new brakes and clean it up (which we took off the top before splitting the proceeds) and sold it in two days for $8800 using Cars.com and craigslist. Two folks came to look at it; the first one came back the next day and bought it. It makes it much easier too if you're selling someone else's car, as there is no emotional issue involved. I had the same luck when I sold my GF's Ford Exploder, I think I sold it in three days to the first person who looked at it, for asking price. So, have a friend sell your car for you. Buy him or her dinner for the trouble, and you don't have to worry about it until it's gone. As for payments and stuff, use common sense. If it's not a local bank, call the bank that issued the certified check and verify that it's good. I've done this numerous times and never been screwed. Michael

Wow, you certainly jumped through some hoops for your buyer. He must have loved it. When I sell a car locally I always check the buyer out before I let him see it. A guy wanted to see my car but I told him to give me his info and I'd get back to him. After checking him out I explained we wouldnt be able to do business. When pressed I revealed I knew that, although he did his 6 yr sentence for fraud, he still had $2.5million in federal restitution do. Never heard from him again.

Can you define, check the buyer out? It would be a tremendous resource to have some of the tools you use, online possibly. Or do you have access to this type of information individually?

I decide whether someone is worth dealing with based on what I find. For instance, if I find tax leins, forclosure, bankruptcy, 100% financing on their house, lawsuits, bad credit, etc I stay away. Granted I may lose an otherwise legitimate buyer but experience tells me it's not worth the time. I have subscriptions to this type of info for work but a lot of the info is available online through local websites, which is typically what the subscription services are based on.

I am familiar with some fraud based searches and general local searches. But for most the difficulty lies in obtaining cbr info. I worked my way through lending and had access to such sites but my career doesnt call for the info, as many others dont.....