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YOUR RESEARCH996 & Porsche Sports Exhaust...again!
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I poked a hole in the rubber, fed the wire through then filled the "tube" with silicon to seal it.
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Incidentally, I know there's a difference between Boxster and 996 headlamps, in-so-much as the level adjust isn't there on Boxster items (I think...), but does anyone have any idea if *most* people go for the cheaper (Boxster) items or stick completely original with the 911 items?
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3)When the PSE is installed correctly it will come on after 50 k,
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Incidentally, I know there's a difference between Boxster and 996 headlamps, in-so-much as the level adjust isn't there on Boxster items (I think...), but does anyone have any idea if *most* people go for the cheaper (Boxster) items or stick completely original with the 911 items?
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4) Have read about physically disconnecting the vacuum pipes from a switching unit on 997's....is this at all relevant to the 996 C2?
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Incidentally, I know there's a difference between Boxster and 996 headlamps, in-so-much as the level adjust isn't there on Boxster items (I think...), but does anyone have any idea if *most* people go for the cheaper (Boxster) items or stick completely original with the 911 items?
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Hi Chaps,
First posting on RennList, so "hello" to everyone!
Okay, I know this is another PSE post, and you're probably bored to tears with replying to them, but I've finally convinced SWMBO that buying a PSE is a good idea, but want to fully understand what's-what before parting with �1,100....tried searching, but brain is now fried, esp as some posts refer to 997's.
The facts:
1) I have a 1998 996 Carrera 2 (3.4)
2) There's no PASM or anything fancy, just a straightforward "vanilla" model
3) I DO want to have the manual bypass switch fitted, not for my benefit, but to keep the Mrs happy on long trips, plus, we're expecting our first Junior in a few months, so need it to be (occassionally) quiet for that reason alone.
The unknowns:
1) Is the wiring already in place in the dashboard, ready to accept the manual switch?
2) I'm guessing there are vacuum pipes that have to be fed through the "trans" tunnel to engine bay?...shouldn't be an issue unless anyone knows of a snag/"gotcha"...or is this gubbins all contained in the engine bay?
3) Will the exhaust, when connected electrically, automatically switch in and out on the 996 model at certain speeds, to satisfy Euro drive-by noise regs?...or is this a 997 feature for PASM equipped cars? (I don't want this to happen...I want to control if it's in bypass mode or not, not let the car decide)
4) Have read about physically disconnecting the vacuum pipes from a switching unit on 997's....is this at all relevant to the 996 C2?
In my spare time, I build race-cars/tinker with engines, etc, so am looking to install this myself...how long (typically) does it take to do?
Thanks in anticipation chaps,
Spencer.
Hi first off , RULE# 1 Post pics of the car!!! Now to your questions:
1) NO the wiring is not in the car, PSE should come with the kit, If not Gert has them.
2)No snags on running vacum lines
3)When the PSE is installed correctly it will come on after 50 k,
4) There is a hack to bypass the automatic PSE noise control
This Job , if its your first time could take maybe 3 or 4 hours , that depends on you , it is pretty strait forward, but you should know these cars can be a pain in the *** to work on for the first couple of times. GOOD LUCK
Hi kilrgt, thanks for your reply...I'll get some pics together/cropped and posted ASAP!
Ok, just a couple of follow-ups...
1) I've checked with the vendor (not Gert at Carnewal, Design911 who are local to me in the UK) and the kit does come with the wiring....where does this interface with the cars loom?...I take it that this can be installed into all models?
2) Great, good news
3) & 4)...hmmm, when "activated" I want it on all the time, not just >5k...what's the hack to bypass the PSE noise control then please?
Thanks
Spencer
Welcome Spencer:
I did a PSE install a few months ago:
Here are the details of my install
If you are installing the wiring harness from scratch, simply do not connect the speed sensor wire, and the 30 mph cutout will not activate. No need for the hack described in RennTech.
Fan-bloody-tastic
...thanks Orient...book-marked, printed and comitted to memory!!
Cheers to everyone else as well for your help, they're now ordered, should be in stock ready for collection on Tues...oooh, can't wait!! [must finish bathroom tiling first=on]
Spen
Welcome Spen. Nice car. I did the complete install of the PSE with the switch, took me about 5 hours taking my time. Good luck...
Ps. Good idea to finish the tile job first...
Cheers guys, yeah, next thing on my list is the clear lens kit. Incidentally, I know there's a difference between Boxster and 996 headlamps, in-so-much as the level adjust isn't there on Boxster items (I think...), but does anyone have any idea if *most* people go for the cheaper (Boxster) items or stick completely original with the 911 items?
I can get a whole 996 kit, inc rears, sides, headlamps and infills for �759 in the UK, but this includes the Boxster lamps; the same supplier is saying each 911 lamp (with adjuster) would be �345!!...looking at about �1k in total plus tax...can't help thinking most people would opt for the cheaper option?
S
Hi Spencer,
Nice car. I love the aerokit.
We don't have the adjuster in U.S. cars -- there is just a "blank" on the dashboard where the adjuster wheel is supposed to be. I am not sure if the U.S. 996 headlamps are different from the UK headlamps (maybe they are the same except we just don't have the adjuster).
Anyway, halogen headlamp takeoffs from 996s that have been upgraded to the Retrofit Litronics can be found on eBay. That might be the way to go if you can verify that they are the same as the UK headlamps (you don't want to fail the MOT).
Cheers,
You will also need to order a dash switch. I sprayed mine with clear laquer to make it have a gloss finish like the rest of the dash switches. The hardest part for me was feeding the wire from behind the rear seat to the door sill. On the cabs there is a large rubber plug on the passenger side that feeds the main wiring harness to the engine bay. Mine had a small hole (from inside the car it looked like a tube the diameter of about a dime) in it also without any wires going through it. I poked a hole in the rubber, fed the wire through then filled the "tube" with silicon to seal it. I also tapped into an existing vacuum line with a T fitting that was located right below where the instructions tell you to mount the vacuum tank. My throttle body already had vacuum lines attached to both sides, so I was going to have to use a T fitting any way. Doing it this way does not require you to remove the throttle body. You will need to buy an extra T fitting though because the included hardware will not include this.
The rest of the install was pretty easy.
Kris
Spencer - Nice ride! Welcome to the crazy house. This is an interesting reversal of the mod presess. Must of us usually start out with the simple things like clear side markers and work up to the more complicated performance/mechanical mods. But you seem to be doing the reverse of that! Good for you!
By the way... what the hell is a "gubbins" (from your initial post)?
Haha, English term, sorry..."gubbins" = equipment / kit / paraphenalia / accessories ...i.e., the wiring loom, switch, vacuum pipes, relay, etc that comes with the exhaust silencers [administer slap to self] (sorry, mufflers!..) [/administer slap to self]
Nah, the silencer swap shouldn't be too traumatic...this is the mobile money-pit, which I built the engine for...2.1 litre, approx 272bhp, normally aspirated, 9000rpm, approx 510bhp/tonne
Cheers
S
i'm not even sure on long trips there is any difference in noise at cruising speeds - the switch may be more of a pain than is really worth it
PSE is my number 1 fave mod and it really does come into its own above 5k rpm
Almost right Vivid...1999 (MY99) STi-5 Type-R....full monty JDM edition, 2-door competition shell, DCCD, blah, blah. It's actually a fair bit quicker down our B-Roads than the 996, despite similar bhp and weight, due to the very short gearing. Not as rewarding when you nail a corner, perhaps, but initially more thrilling. Soon wears off when you only get 8mpg though!....unfortunately, it's now for sale, taking up too much street space....oh, and we've got a baby on the way and the Mrs wants a new (practical) car!
...I get the awful feeling it'll be MPV-ville soon
What are the implications of self-installing PSE on a car that is still under the manufacturer's warranty? Does anyone have experience with warranty repairs on engine or electrical systems in a car that had work like this done?
Thanks. That is great news. I imagine that the dealer is happy to do warranty work - they get paid and the customer is still happy. I guess it would be interesting to know if PCNA knew that your car had the work done. Clearly, we are on the hook if our work causes related problems. Hopefully PCNA takes this approach and would only refuse to pay for a warranty repair if it were related.
BTW, thanks for the great DIY on PSE.