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But when you try to add "my love for 19" wheels on the 996" into your argument then you are attempting to set a double standard.
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It's so easy to use Bumper Plugs you'd be wasting your time to try it yourself!
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About 9 months ago I was using a clay bar on my car and I accidentally (OK, carelessly) jammed the clay bar into the edge of one bumper plug.
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I recall you using words like (an these may not direct quotes)
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I have a 2000 C4 that I want to make some changes to the interior. I've seen pics of 996's with different color center consoles and air vents. Can these just be painted or do you have to purchase them a different color. thanks
From what I understand they are difficult to paint properly. Most of the better places will charge a core fee until you return the original parts. Suggest checking out
www.bumperplugs.com
. I have ordered a few things and been very happy, and they're also a site sponser!
I agree with Don. Eric @ BumperPlugs does an excellent job on painted interior parts. I have been to his place and have seen multiple examples of their products in various colors. The work is "top notch" and the customer service is excellent.
About 9 months ago I was using a clay bar on my car and I accidentally (OK, carelessly) jammed the clay bar into the edge of one bumper plug. The impact was such that the paint chipped off the plug. Totally my fault, and not a quality issue of the plug.
I called Eric and told him what happened and that I needed a plug. I went down to his shop and had the plug on his desk. We chatted a little about his products and he showed me some examples of their work. When I was getting ready to leave he gave me the replacement plug but wouldn't take any money for it. I objected, stating that it was not a defective part, it was "user error" that caused the chip and that I fully intended to pay for the plug. Well, in the end, I lost that argument and walked out with a free plug.
When you contact Eric, tell him that Tim in Concord sent you. I am certain that he won't hold that against you!
I vote for going to Eric as well... have been to his shop a number of times, since I live in Charlotte as well. Great products, great guy, great service.
Here some before and after shots re console in Seal Gray
Dutchie,
What do you do to prevent the seat belt from marking up the center console? I have the same interior and have some scratches/marks on the center console caused by the seat belt (the console is grey but the marks come up black). How expensive a proposition is it to have that center console piece re-painted? Thanks for your advice. Andy T
Andy - One thing you could do is get some black felt that has an adhesive backing and cut some pieces to fit on the back side of the female seat belt receptacle. That should stop the scratching and not be very noticeable.
i'd like to just say that supple leather looks horrible - i am a big fan of the painted center console.
the stock plastic is ridiculously cheap looking - wtf was porsche thinking
As Tim said... some felt is what I have... no scrathes at all. take a look on
www.bumperplugs.com
re pricing for repaint. I would suggest to put a SSK in at the same time... believe the two items were 500-600 together. Worth every penny!
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Ben - I like the supple leather. It looks and feels great.
Here are three pics of it. If you really dislike it as much as you say you do, maybe these pics will make you throw up on your mouth!
You know, thankfully I don't get to see Bok Choi's acidic comments anymore, but I can guarantee that every time he is quoted it's a negative comment. Has anyone ever seen him make a positive comment?
Thanks Tim and Dutchie will do. BTW Dutchie what is an SSK that you mentioned doing at the same time? Sorry but I am not up to speed with all the new lingo. Thanks.
SSK is the B&M Short Shifter Kit. As long as you have the old console removed, you can swap the shifter too. It will add in about 30 to 45 minutes to the console swap. The SSK is great. It shortens the shift throws.
don't paint the console, go to Carnewal in Europe and get the real leather console and arm rest cover. the sticking looks great and nothing beats leather.
I don't want to stir the pot any more, but that was not a play on a name. A play would have been "nice CHOIce ben...or the like". Perhaps the intentions were to be funny, but it wasn't...at least not to me.
Andy,
I have never personally purchased anything from Gert at Carnewal but quite a few guys here have done so. Here are links to the console and cover. The Carnewal site is also listed.
Leather Rear Center Console
Leather Storage Cover
http://www.carnewal.com/
you'd think the general socio-economic background of porsche owners would prove otherwise, but in my experience here thus far, this place is a zoo in a not so great way.
i'm pretty amazed at the level of toleration toward racial undertones, homophobic remarks, ultra-ignorant views that have transpired from just my name, avatar, and my love for 19" wheels on the 996. it's kinda sad.
anyways not to take it too off course since this is a hobbyist site that i do get a lot of good info from sometimes... painted console is a MUST.
Ben - I agree with everything you stated above except the "my love for 19" wheels on the 996" comment. If that is how you truly feel, then you are guilty of violating your own "values."
We all have opinions on choices or wheels, the color of a car, supple leather or regular leather,
options added or not added, etc. You have been very vocal, and many times not too subtle, with your comments about options or cars. I recall you using words like (an these may not direct quotes)
looks like crap
,
looks awful
when remarking about something you don't like. If you don’t like something you could be a little more subtle in your comments, but hey, you certainly don't have to do so.
Personally I have no problem if you don't like my "mostly stock" car because you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I truly respect your rights to have those opinions. But when you try to add "my love for 19" wheels on the 996" into your argument then you are attempting to set a double standard. Apparently you want one standard for yourself so you can make any comments you want about everyone's car and another standard for the rest of us which would prohibit us to say anything about your car. I’ll tell you right now, “that ain’t gonna fly!”
Again, I am in full agreement with everything else you stated above, but for the most part I don’t think this type of thing occurs very often. I have seen that most of us help keep these types of things in check, as evidenced by those who gave you support in this thread.
Those are my thoughts on the matter.
and i see what you're saying... but there have been a couple of cases where people have directly responded to my love for 19" wheels on the 996 with pics/inferences that suggest people who love 19s belong to a certain ethnic background which is absolutely hilarious given it is thru the written word amongst strangers. so i take it with a grain of salt thus the reason why i even paid my $15 to be a member.
now it's totally diff if these people came up to my face and had the ***** to say the very same things... and to a certain extent me too except the things i'm saying are really centered around the actual car part/modification etc and not the person's skin color, sexual preferences, etc (for the most part
). y'all can make and say whatever you want about my car, but that's damn hard because i don't go and buy, install the very things that i blast. my car is a very good looking 911 and i'll say one of the best looking modified 996s anywhere. that's my honest opinion. but again, i dish out fully expecting to get dished myself. bring it.
bottom line , i'm no angel, but you will never see me resort to racist comments and i do my best to stick to teasing/being candid about car parts/mod decisions even when people so often look at my avatar and make fun of the tattoo, the hat, the pose, the wife beater shirt etc. i don't and never will strike back and talk about how they are pale, overweight, short, tall, hairy, love to eat bacon, clueless about fashion, and think the NFL is the best sport ever in the whole wide world. i'll just move onto the next ugly mod/911 and tell them about it. HAHAHAHAH
all in all, it's entertainment for me, but there is a line that i myself don't cross and in the one time i remember where i did, i apologized publicly.
btw, i have the oem CF console and CF compartment lid. should i paint these arctic silver?
It's quite different to say someone's car looks like ***, then making a blatantly racist comment about the person. We all ripped on that Millennium car on ebay. I'm confident enough in my taste not to get my panties in a wad when someone says my car is ugly. There's no need to lash out at the person. I like that Ben is honest, I rarely agree w/him, but it's just a matter of taste. That's what's cool about the 996, it has many forms - coupe, cab, targa, C4, C2 - we can get what we like and show some personality it it.
No, that would look like ***
It'd be a crazy experience to have my car and your car in the same garage and we rag on each other's mods all day, yet we still are cool with one another because of the respect factor.
But then again, in the Korean culture, respect for elders is a big deal so I'd actually have to bow to you when greeting you and saying good-bye. LOLOLLOLOOLOLOL
a Korean wife would throw sharp things - the grass is greener...
p.s. i'm sure your irish wife makes you a very happy man and so do many Korean wives for their husbands.... yea
OK, now I understand the context of the 19" wheel thing. I honestly don't recall reading e 19" wheel/ethnic association. I guess it didn't stick in my memory banks.
Maybe you could paint arctic silver stripes on the CF console and lid! Now THAT would look like ***.
Seriously, no don't paint the CF. Get a arctic silver console from Eric and if you like it, sell the CF stuff. BTW - I think your car l@@ks good. BTW part 2 - You need to be MUCH nicer to me because I am probably twice your age!
i was just kidding about painting the CF! i'd be nuts to do that. I think CF is the best look period on a black interior 911. it's the most $$ too unfortunately.
and i have been nice to you! you're like the most vocal guy on here. need to have you on my side. LOL yea, if i haven't i'll do my best to give you the benefit of the doubt and be more respectful. if anything your post count kills mine!
as for the rest of the suckas who don't know better, F 'em.
Maybe the prices of 996s aren't high enough to keep the riffraff out anymore.
Kidding. Holster your weapons, boys.
Seriously, there is a definite 'Lord of the Flies' element around this forum sometimes. It's hard to believe that anyone could take the fun out of owning a Porsche, but it's come close a couple of times.
I think painting the console is a bad idea if you happen to have the aluminum-look (aka, painted) accents all over the interior. Two different silvers kinda clash, IMHO!
Of course, if you have grey or any other color, it looks very cool.
Actually Andy, we match it to the precise same finish as the interior components whenever possible.
That said, alumalook has changed over the years. On your '00 it is closer to Arctic, on '02+ year 996's it is a matte clear, lighter silver with more metallic flake, and in the 997, something even different from that!
But we can match it.
I don't know Ben. I didn't see the earlier comment as a race thing, rather a funny play on your name. However (IMHO), you have received some race type posts in some past threads that you should not have.
I find it curious that you are surprised by the amount of "crap" that gets thrown your way. Surely you realize your post are frequently
very
opinionated (i.e. "that mod looks like crap" or "your car looks stupid without 19's" type posts). Combine these highly opinionated posts with a "in your face, playa" delivery, and I guess some feel within bounds to send "trash talk" back at you.
I'd guess, (if it really bothers you) that if you tone it down a little most will respond in kind.
Unfortunately, the "king of bling" label you seem to have earned will probably be hard to shake.
I enjoy your posts.
Bump!!
Just Kidding!!
ray, it is outright veiled racism, man. the pictures, the comments, the hip hop references for what because of the hat and the wife beater two american fashion staples? LOL c'mon dude. i know you see it just as the other smart folks who do. and i'm not acting all innocent here because i predicted it.
and so it doesn't bother me like world hunger bothers me. it's more of an "entertaining disappointment" than anything else, but then that's all relative given we are on an internet forum, but then i do spend time on here as it is my sole channel to blog. plus we do all share 1 common bond being we like our 911s and talking about it.
i'm going to stay the course and be myself. i'll call it like i see it.... about your 911, car parts, modifications and stick to it. yet when i do this, all that these weak sauces can do is make it personal, make it ethnic, make it something not about the car. it's elementary school time.
and just like in life i'll choose who i befriend. there are definitely some of you've i've written to where if you were in town and said let's grab a drink and throw down, i'm there. there many more of you where i'm like you gotta be kidding me, i'm busy.
and to stick to my playa delivery
, i close this post with these lyrical poetics...
"You should love it way more than you hate it oh you mad I thought you’d be happy I made it I’m the cat by the bar toasting to the good life moved out the hood now you tryin to pull me back right"
The issue is that it was gratuitous, ie not relevant to the topic at hand. It's name calling, and a bit worse because it's inferentially ethnic name calling. If we were debating food, it would have been less gratuitous. If we were debating Asian food, even less so. But we were debating cars.
This stuff is always about imputed motive. Without knowing each other personally, it's reasonable to characterize a comment like that as a bit racist just because it was a non-sequitur. Guy might not have intended anything like that, but you take your chances on the internets.
Look guys - just chill.
It wasn't intended to be offensive. I apologize if it was taken that way. It was simple word play - word association. I actually cook with bok choi quite a lot, as my wife and I enjoy chinese cooking a lot.
Time to unknot those panties a little.
Wow I just read this thread and I have to say I am very disappointed with what I read. I won't go into to details because I do not need to repeat anything that has been said already, but basically I didn't think I would find name calling on a Porsche forum
BTW...I hope you all like my new avatar, and yes that is me
Geez Demon....and I thought the guy from prison break had some serious tatts (even tho they aren't real). Nice artwork! Everyone in the rennlist world seems to have a great sig.....when's the next contest?
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you wouldn't have said the same words to my face so it's one thing if we knew each other and i knew your wife loved bok choy
but it may help if you learned how to spell it right.
and btw, i've never eaten a bok choy chinese dish in my life. maybe you two can cook something up for me should i ever find my way into the armpit of the East.
Actually, if you knew me you'd know that I would have said it to your face at some point. I am not malicious in any way and not a nasty person, but I am brutally honest and open - we do have that in common. It's actually kinda hurtful to have my comment misconstrued, as racist is the very last thing that I could be accused of.... especially considering that most Americans have the cultural understanding of a brick and there are some bricks that have travelled to more countries than the average american.
As for spelling. I have seen it spelled several different ways. If you google the spelling that I used you will see it come up. You'll find many recipes - you should try them - we like it a lot.
Arm pit of the east? you've been here? Philly is a hole, the area around it is actually very nice.... lots of old money and houses that you west coast guys can only dream of.
Wayne, if this will stop you and Ben from the back-and-forth attacks at each other, then the answer is here in the U.S.
Now get over the fact that your newly acquired wheels were mis-represented
I love it! Very well said!
Yeah, I know. I shouldn't have taken the Ben Bait. I know better. I'll shut up now.
Sometimes you have got to play a little though, even if some might not have a sense of humor.
In my defense, it's performance management season - wasting time doing that all day when I'd prefer to be doing science is enough to make anyone cranky.
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