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Use fogs

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I use my fogs when appropriate (rain or fog).

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Run jumper wire

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However, I did run a jumper wire from the left rear for light to the right rear fog light.

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However, I did run a jumper wire from the left rear for light to the right rear fog light.

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Run lights (drl) installed in my c4s

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I had daytime running lights (DRL) installed in my C4S when I imported it into Canada.

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Run with the lights

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Sometimes running with the lights on during the day is a matter of self preservation.

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Run with their fog lights

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It seems everyone likes to run with their fog lights on all the time.

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However, I did run a jumper wire from the left rear for light to the right rear fog light.

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Run lights (drl) installed in my c4s

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I had daytime running lights (DRL) installed in my C4S when I imported it into Canada.

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Run with the lights

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Sometimes running with the lights on during the day is a matter of self preservation.

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Run with their fog lights

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It seems everyone likes to run with their fog lights on all the time.

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There should be a mandatory RTFM test given to ALL purchasers prior to taking delivery!

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Test lower drag coefficient

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I had just waxed the car and turned on all the lights and drove around for a few to test the new lower drag coefficient.

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Use fog lights)

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Hense, now it never gets used, but I agree I see it all the time on many european cars and I know the owners have no clue what they are doing (I mean really, how often is it foggy that you need to use the fog lights).

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Use fogs

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I use my fogs when appropriate (rain or fog).

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Use fogs until this thread

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WOW, I didnt even know how to use my fogs until this thread.

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Use rear fog light

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Of course I do like to use the rear fog light when I have some idiot who starts to tailgate me.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Many 996/997 drivers I see on the road drive with their lights pulled all the way out so the rear driver's fog lamp is lit. If you don't know what I mean, next time you're in your car, pull the light switch all the way out look at the rear of the car. Rant over, thanks.

POST 2Original post

tough day today? I know exactly what you mean..... I always wonder whether they are doing this on purpose and like the look, or just don't know better.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm betting they have no clue, it looks retarded.

POST 4Original post

I see that as well on all the MB's, etc. and it drives me NUTS! I have learned that there are just so many people drivng their cars (and probably going throught life) on a principle in cognitive world called automaticity. They have pretty much <1% active volition and just walk around without knowing exactly what it is they are doing. There should be a mandatory RTFM test given to ALL purchasers prior to taking delivery!

POST 5Original post

They might think its a place to hang their hat.

POST 7Original post

It seems everyone likes to run with their fog lights on all the time. And I agree that is annoying. Fog lights are for fog or very low visibility conditions. Of course I do like to use the rear fog light when I have some idiot who starts to tailgate me. It tends to back them off to a safer distance. I especially like it if it induces a panic breaking on their part.

POST 8Original post

Its funny. I remember when I got my boxster in 1998, I thought it was 'ccol' to have both front and rear fog lights. So I was one of 'those' people that pulled the switch all the way out and drove around like that. I do not remember how long it was untill I realized that only the drivers side light was lit on the back, and then after actually 'reading' the manual, (and other people complaining on PPBB) it was explained why only one light goes on. Hense, now it never gets used, but I agree I see it all the time on many european cars and I know the owners have no clue what they are doing (I mean really, how often is it foggy that you need to use the fog lights).

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Yup. Retarded. Frankly, and continuing the rant...with litronics, I don't even like the look with the driving lights on. I'm still trying to find a good solution for a halogen bulb that casts a whiter light and more closely resembles the xenon headlights.

POST 10Original post

^^what y'all said. Especially annoying at night...

POST 11Original post

Then you can tell the people that do it all the time. Only the pass side brakelight is working because they left the rear fog on too much and it has burned out.

POST 12Original post

The rear fog light is separate from the brake light. I use my fogs when appropriate (rain or fog). But everytime I use the rear fog light somebody always tells me I have a bulb burned out.

POST 13Original post

I never usually even turn my lights on unless I am driving at night but then I just turn it to on. I don't turn on the front or rear fog lights. My headlights come on automatically as soon as I start the car.

POST 14Original post

Man, maybe the DOT approval people do sometimes know what theyre doing then. I often wished they hadn't screwed around in the 80's ad forbid MB from bringing the rear fog light to the US, but it looks like we really can't handle it.

POST 15Original post

You're right I had no clue, however in my defense I have always been clueless.

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

You're a big man to admit it. When I first bought my 2001 I pulled the light switch all the way out and was looking at something behind the car and I thought one of the light bulbs was out... turns out I was clueless... it also turns out that there's a connection there for another light bulb if you wanted to activated both of them.

POST 17Original post

Rob - First off, I apologize for driving with my fog lights on all of the time. I'll quite doing so immediately, now that I know it bothers you. Just kidding, I don�t drive with my fogs on. Initially, I didn't know about the "one rear fog light" being a Euro thing. However, I did run a jumper wire from the left rear for light to the right rear fog light. Both rear fog lights work now. My rear fog lights have been on exactly 3 times. 1st time - to check if they worked OK, noticed only left side worked); 2nd time - after I did the jumper wire mod to see if they both worked; 3rd time - turned them on early one morning last fall... in the fog!

POST 18Original post

You aren't supposed to have 2 rear fogs, not in the US, not in Europe. People will think your brakes are on. I don't care if the brake lights are seperate lights, people don't know this for the most part, see 2 bright lights, and think brakes. The rear fog is supposed to be left side only. That's how people know where the outside edge of your car is.

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Exactly... it was just interesting that there is a bulb socket there, it's not wired in, but it's there.

POST 20Original post

Yeah, I know, all cars that have a rear fog have a socket on the other side (at least that I've seen). I want to say it's for cars with the steering wheel on the right, but I'm not sure

POST 21Original post

Wehn I check and found only the right side lamps goes on I thought my left bulb was out. I called the dealer to be enlightened about how rear fog lamps work ... I use it however in hard to see conditions like when its dark+raining heavily or in fog ... Sid

POST 22Original post

I had daytime running lights (DRL) installed in my C4S when I imported it into Canada. It's the frt fog lights that are on full time during the day.

POST 23Original post

I just want to be noticed..and a little more light in the rear and front might do the job!!

POST 24Original post

WOW, I didnt even know how to use my fogs until this thread. Thanks guys. I just tried it out and they work. It only took me 4 months. LOL.

POST 25Original post

Mine too, but they go off when I switch on the headlights. Better to burn off the fogs as DRL's than the Bi-Xenons, IMHO.

POST 26Original post

Riad, I must admit you would have busted me the other night. I had just waxed the car and turned on all the lights and drove around for a few to test the new lower drag coefficient. It was not raining or foggy.

POST 27Original post

Sometimes running with the lights on during the day is a matter of self preservation. With all the Expeditions, Excursions, Escalades and other monster SUV's on the road with drivers talking on their cell phones not paying attention to what they are doing, they don't notice that small silver/grey/white Porsche next to them. As a good friend said long ago, when you buy a Porsche, Ferrari or Lamborghini you will find out what the true meaning of defensive driving is!

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

As matter of habbit I always put my lights on, even on bright sunny days...

POST 29Original post

It is one of my pet peeves as well. People who run their front fogs all the time are a brief problem. A Volvo in front of you with the rear fog going during the day is a hazard.

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