Perfect 996 to be sold

I am listing my 2003 996 C2 on the classifieds here today and Auto Trader. 11,450 miles, Speed Yellow, w/matching rear console, seat backs and belts, heated sport seats, litronics and washers, new PSE, 18" Carrera's, brand new Pagid Sport pads, clear bra, 09/09 CPO and Porsche Certificate of Authenticity. Car is absolutely perfect in every respect and sits indoors, under cover sealed with Klasse, plus three coats of Klasse Glaze and three coats of P21S carnuba. $57,000, extras such as brand new OZ 19's, and covers are negotiable. This car is a 10 out of 10 and the interior console and seat backs/belt are a 2k option alone. You will find cheaper 996's. I seriously doubt you can find a more perfect one though, optioned as this is and with such low miles. Many more pictures available upon request. [phone removed] [email removed]

That's what I paid for a perfect 2003 C2 with less miles and the same options from a warm climate area 2 years ago. Good luck. And trust me, I am routing for you!

Beautiful car but yellow just isn't my thing. Good luck. Question though, are those original seats ? I really do not like the seats in my '99 c2 and would consider replacing them,just don't know with what. Would like much more support.

Ramp, they are the original Sport seats, these are heated. Significantly more support than the regular seats. Know what you mean about the yellow. I thought the same thing at first but all of a sudden just fell in love with it. When really cared for it looks like you could dip your hand into it all the way up to the wrist.

PorschePRH I either should have you search for my next car or you just had different options!! The other three on the Rennlist classifieds have either: 1.) 3x the miles; 2.) more $ and less (CPO) warranty or 3.) is a Targa, nicely optioned too. Auto trader shows similar #'s for SIMILAR cars. Think CPO until 09/09. You really have to look at apples to apples closely, some buyers will and others will not, I know. The PSE is $2500. Matching exterior color on the seat backs, console and belts is over 2k. Clear bra and brand new brakes is $1,200. Location doesn't matter, she sleeps when the weather is cold or wet. Not to mention...... she's Speed Yellow. A very seductive color up close

Yellow can be seductive - I think its a life timing matter. Years ago I had a yellow Prelude - loved every minute with that car. I guess I've just toned down a bit. Any thoughts on where to go for better powered seats that would not need any modification and work just like the OEM ? Thanks - btw, I did email your car to a friend that I am trying to convince to make his first P purchase. Unfortunately, I don't think he's quite there yet.

Not sure about the seats Ramp. Thanks for the email for my sale.

CTO3911, your car is beautiful. Good luck with the sale. What are you going to replace it with? Hopefully a turbo or GT3.

Been searching for a GT3. 70% sure that will be the one but the other 30% of me keeps looking at other options like a dedicated track/race car.

Beautiful car but yellow just isn't my thing. Good luck. The problem with yellow is that most people either love it or hate it. The $57K price maybe just a tad high for a low mileage car in perfect condition with a CPO warranty, but it's not that far off IMO. I think it will take a lot of patience to find the right buyer. It's not uncommon for Porsche Dealers near me to keep high priced used Porsches on their lots for around a year before they sell them, and that's with all of the foot traffic that Dealers attract.

Yea, you should definitely have me negotiate for you -- I have been in high-end sales for more than a decade. By the way, you can't just add up cost of upgrades and tack them on to the price of the car. Many mods get nothing back, and some lower the pricing. I have PSE, and they cost me $900 by shopping around. Clear bra can be put on yourself for $30... I have new brakes, they cost me $100/axle. Most 911 buyers would want the stock pads in there also. Etc... You overpaid on those items, and most new buyers aren't going to pay for your mistakes. And yellow is out. Orange is the new yellow right now. Mine is Red, and that's a classic color that never goes out of style. But the 911 crowd is enamoured with silver and black. So don't count on anything for the yellow. Maybe subtract. And I have heard the stories before of cars that have "never see snow or rain." It might be true, but so many people BS that, you can't believe them. It would be the equivalent of believing that every sales rep is always telling the truth. But, like I said, I am routing for you since it will keep my resale value up... You know what they say in sales: "A sucker is born evey minute." And you only need one to make your day.

Your car is nice and I'm a big fan of Yellow as well. To be honest with you, your price seems high to me. I am not saying yours do not worth that much but consider that people can pick up a 03 C4S with similar milage and trims for around $57k to $59k. Unless you are not in a hurry to sell your C2, otherwise, it may takes some time to find the right buyer.

PRH, read your last post again... do you really need to "share" all that knowledge and screw with CTO3s post?

i think crack is being smoked you can get a 2001 TT slightly higher miles for the same cash options make the car more attractive but don;t add much to the sales price KBB trade-in is $45k $48 - 50k is realistic private party nada retail is 53k - again, 50k is realistic private party

Unfortunately in this market you are over priced. Please don't take it the wrong way, we are all trying to help you. We all love our cars, and have all been guilty of living in an "American Idol" fantacy about our cars value. Pricing your car appropriately will save you a lot of frustration down the road. Also wait until summer, even advertising your car now is likely a waste of your time even if it's priced appropriately. Another thing; The fire extinguisher mounted infront of the driver seat coupled with the Pagid pads tells me the car has been tracked...that is a big no no if you want top dollar. Here is a pricing report from Edmunds. Note: It quotes $53,676 for CPO, but this is for CPO from a dealer, so you need to detract some $ since this is a private sale, and it is a partial CPO remaining situation. This is for a car with your options (I assumed you have PSM if you don't then subtract). I have found edmunds most closely resembles what you can expect to get, however be prepared that even edmunds seems to quote a little high in this very tough 996 market, and sellers of 996's in the real world are actually getting less. The Middle column is for Private Party. 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera Rwd 2dr Coupe (3.6L 6cyl 6M) Trade-In Private Party Dealer Retail National Base Price $38,428 $41,278 $43,610 Optional Equipment $2,080 $2,243 $2,642 Heated Front Seats $187 $201 $237 Sport Seats $182 $196 $231 Traction Control $562 $606 $714 Xenon High Intensity Discharge Headlights $496 $535 $630 18 Inch Wheels $653 $705 $830 Color Adjustment Yellow $0 $0 $0 Regional Adjustment for Zip Code 92886 $83 $89 $94 Mileage Adjustment 11,450 miles $1,457 $1,457 $1,457 Condition Adjustment Outstanding $1,907 $1,951 $2,110 Total $43,955 $47,018 $49,913 Certified Used Vehicle $53,676 Again this is just an estimate, and sellers seem to be getting a bit less., but is a good place to start with your asking price. Good luck with your sale.

I have been in the car business my whole life and the one universial true is that the car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Those books are called "guides" for a reason. It may be high by book standards but if someone can see the value it will not matter. If you look at what cars sell for vs. what the book says that rarely match in both the high and low side. The only value that is fairly consistent is wholesale values that are tracked by the auction ect. Retail is a whole different deal and prices are all over the board. I hope that someone does see the value in this perfect yellow 996 and pay all the money!

Here's a recommendation for both of you: If you don't want people sharing info (good or bad) about something you are doing, don't post on a discussion forum on the Internet that is designed for sharing info. And say no to drugs.

Now if I had said no to drugs earlier in life I would have a TT by now

Sooooo, what is CURRENT asking price again?? Thanks!!

That's been my experience too. You can quote book prices all you want to Dealers and all they will do is to make a few calls to find out what that particular car has actually sold for in the past few weeks. It may or may not match what KBB or Edmunds specifies, but my experience is that KBB and Edmunds are typically on the high side with their estimated values. I always find that if someone is serious about selling his car, the best thing to do is to establish a wholesale value for his car. The best way to do that is to take your car to at least two Dealers and ask them what they are willing to pay for your car. After establishing the wholesale value, you can always try to sell it privately by multiplying the wholesale value by 1.15 or 1.2.

One thing I can count on from this forum is very interesting responses I appreciate the feedback and more so when it is well intentioned. Thank you. Obviously I want to sell the car and considered all the input carefully. At the end of the day I relied heavily on the current listings here and in Autotrader. I looked up cars with very close to 11k miles and compared options. It's a short list and not hard. You really must study the listings though to see differences. I tried to do that. You can always point to a cheaper price. We all have gone and looked at "good deal" listings at one time or another and usually there is a reason, chips etc. One thing I can say is my CPO warranty is as good as a dealers, after all, it's Porsche's CPO and the date is the date. If I traded the car, which I might, the dealer's "new" CPO would expire the same day mine does now, September 2009. As far as options, and the car has many, some that may be important to one individual are not to another. It is possible to install some cheaper, depends on who you know and what work you want to do yourself. If I wanted to hide the fact the car had ever seen a track I would have removed the fire bottle. Actually, I think it is a wise option anyways and left it in for the pictures. That bottle will go in my next car too. The brake pads are brand new and replaced OEM pads with lots of life. I simply wanted to improve on the factory pads. There is no PSM on the car. I wanted a pure drivers car. The flawless condition of the car says it all in terms of how it has been used. I sold a silver car to buy this and still own two silver cars. I like silver, obviously, but once you pull the cover off this car and see the depth of color and finish it is breathtaking. I hope to buy a yellow GT3 actually but silver would be ok. Hope this answers some questions. It is hard to price a flawless car because many really are not but it's clearly worth a premium. There are people out there that can't afford new (me, for instance) but are determined to find a low mileage car that is absolutely perfect. The trick is to somehow convince a buyer that yours really is. Once someone sees this car they will fall in love. I did. Actually, I still am, but I hoping someone will appreciate the difference so I can then go find another flawless Pcar. Maybe one that's name on the tail starts with a "G" vs a "C".

Good luck on the sale... Love the OZ wheels. You should show some pics with those wheels

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beautifiul car.... if i had the money...... i would take it off your hand....gl with the sale.

I may have the track car for you. You would have to build it out. 2002 C2 with 75000 hwy miles ( 50 K since october 2004, had 14XXX miles when I purchased it). Still CPO until 9/08 or 100K. Silver, has PSM, but can be turned off easily. I am in CT as well. Car is lightly optioned, and does have a minor accident in its history (at 1200 miles, which has not made one bit of difference in the safety or driveability of the car. My price is significantly less than your asking price.

Dude, just get some clear sides and a GT3 wing. Nobody will know the difference!

I respectfully disagree. The car looks way better with the Carrera Lightweights. However, I know OZ makes good, light track wheels which I'm sure is what they were used for, so I guess everything has it's purpose!

Actually Lowside, the OZ's only have maybe 350 miles on them, if that. All around town some and one trip of maybe 180 miles. MPS2's on them and I'm planning to sell them seperate when the car sells, unless the buyer wants them. I will make a buyer for the car an exceptional deal on these wheels and tires to take the whole package. I also have the original rubber for the car, PS Ribs with 7k miles on them and substantial tread remaining, although I haven't measured it. All my wheels have two coats of wax on them and the eight tires are stored in heavy bags in a conditioned basement.

42Empress, thanks for the offer but I'm primarily hoping to get into a GT3. If I can't find one after the sale of this car I may look for a race car already set up but would sure miss driving on the road so I'm not pursuing that avenue as much.