fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
18 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCHHow dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Leading reported evidence

Replace oil

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Oil was changed along with IMS retrofit....

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Well, I changed my oil today...

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!
Frequently discussed work

Replace )

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I find this generally true, but I've seen some shops advertising an IMS retrofit special "package" for a flat fee, so it wouldn't shock me if the invoice just listed "IMS retrofit" as the line item (and that included the oil change).

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Replace oil' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace )' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 18 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Replace )

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I find this generally true, but I've seen some shops advertising an IMS retrofit special "package" for a flat fee, so it wouldn't shock me if the invoice just listed "IMS retrofit" as the line item (and that included the oil change).

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil during the ims retrofit

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Did they change the oil during the IMS retrofit???

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil or not

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Could you not have asked the shop if they changed the oil or not?

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil they probably would have charged you

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

If they changed the oil they probably would have charged you for 10 or so quarts.

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!
Frequently discussed actions (6)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Replace )

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I find this generally true, but I've seen some shops advertising an IMS retrofit special "package" for a flat fee, so it wouldn't shock me if the invoice just listed "IMS retrofit" as the line item (and that included the oil change).

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Oil was changed along with IMS retrofit....

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Well, I changed my oil today...

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil during the ims retrofit

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Did they change the oil during the IMS retrofit???

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil or not

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Could you not have asked the shop if they changed the oil or not?

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Replace oil they probably would have charged you

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

If they changed the oil they probably would have charged you for 10 or so quarts.

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!

Run across any porsche service shop, indy or dealer

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

I do not think I've run across any Porsche service shop, indy or dealer, that gives away materials, fluids, parts, labor, etc.

How dare I start a thread with both IMS & Oil!
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

18 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261026T135432Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok.. I had an IMS bearing retrofit last week. The service receipt states parts and labor which includes coolant refill but does not specify an oil change. I assume oil change is not a part of the retrofit... Well, I changed my oil today... after reading all the oil threads on here, I got confused and decided to stick with M1 0W-40. Safe choice imo. Well...shame on me, my last oil change was about 22 months and 6,000 miles ago... I know... I feel bad and I apologize.. But the old oil and the filter were clear and clean.... barely darker than new oil.. Did they change the oil during the IMS retrofit???

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 8982126

Well, if they did, then they didn't add 9 quarts....

POST 4Original post

Draining the oil is part of the LN engineering IMS bearing retrofit procedure. If they changed the oil they probably would have charged you for 10 or so quarts.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 8982116

I put 6000 miles on in a Summer. Drive the thing! You will feel happier than your car.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 8982116

And you couldn't post this in one of the 1,000,000,000,000 IMSB threads why?

POST 7Original post

OP, Could you not have asked the shop if they changed the oil or not? Would have been a whole lot simpler to make that one phone call!

POST 8Original post

LOL.... NO!!! Rennlist will know, not the guy that just did the work if they changed the IMS without removing the oil they are magical and mystical one in the same if they re-used your 6k mile oil....they are sucketh and crapethy all in the same

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 8983546

I concur.. Especially considering that the IMSR bearing does have a break in period!!

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 8982116

Unlikely if the invoice doesn't list any oil. I do not think I've run across any Porsche service shop, indy or dealer, that gives away materials, fluids, parts, labor, etc. My local dealer service department will discount some things, but this is always listed on the invoice. The full price and the discounted price along of course with the item being discounted, parts mostly. Sincerely, Macster.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 8983678

I find this generally true, but I've seen some shops advertising an IMS retrofit special "package" for a flat fee, so it wouldn't shock me if the invoice just listed "IMS retrofit" as the line item (and that included the oil change). I'm not sure I would *necessarily* assume that it included a new filter, though...

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 8983546

Is that Ed from Nottingham?

POST 14Original post

I've owned a few new cars and the service dept at a dealer would sometimes send me off with a quart of oil or coolant no charge. I've also heard of some Porsche dealers providing free fluids, perhaps a quart or two. But certainly not an entire oil change.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 8983399

I could have but I didn't feel like it.

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Oil was changed along with IMS retrofit.... I just wasted good 1 hour and $80 on another oil change... Well...but at least I feel clean.

POST 18Original post

Ok, I give up.... what is an IMS??? Bawhahahahaha!!!!

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.